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Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.

Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.

Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.

Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.

Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.

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[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I hope at least a sizeable chunk of Trump voters regret voting for him. It breaks my heart to know that there are legitimately people who have paid attention to all his lies and already broken promises and still want the guy to lead the country. I don't know how to salvage someone like that.

[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I researched this exact question. There is a way called deep canvasing https://www.vice.com/en/article/how-to-change-a-voters-mind-is-deep-canvassing/

It's scientifically proven. Try having a one on one conversation with someone. Listen to what they say and respond with empathy. Then gradually and calmly introduce your message that is related to what they said. For example if the person you are talking to said they are worried about grocery prices and specifically egg prices you could mention that bird flu was the root cause of the price increase and that Trump's tariffs will raise prices on groceries. Building trust helps your message get across. I've had personal conversations with Trump supporters who trust me and you'd be surprised how much success you can have.

[–] indomara@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is correct, I use this method a lot in my work with the disabled. Often with clients that struggle with mental health, it's important to redirect negative thoughts and feelings, but you have to do this without jumping to condescending or infantilising language.

The easiest way is to empathize with acknowledging it as worthy of the space it's taking up and offering up something related that I might worry about. Then redirect with a similar subject, but framed in a way that gives more power over it. Maybe a news article that pointed out how is being solved by someone, or overcome, or even simply made fun of.

If you can laugh at something for being ridiculous it has less power.

You don't need to change their belief in you just need to redirect it and reframe it, they will then have a different mental relationship with it later, and over time change.

[–] WeUnite@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

it’s important to redirect negative thoughts and feelings, but you have to do this without jumping to condescending or infantilising language.

So much this! I used to be a Trump supporter myself and I've made some people angry because of my previous political views. I got yelled at for what I said. Even though in hindsight their reaction was somewhat justified all that did was reinforce my views and dig a deeper hole.

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Wow! Thanks for the link. You've brightened my evening a bit.

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

This is true in my experience. People are extremely mimetic and validation driven. If someone respects you, they listen and imitate. It can actually be frustrating to me as an adult, because I don't find the aphorism "imitation is the finest form of flattery" to be flattering in many cases. It can start to look manipulative or lazy when it's middle-aged adults floundering for approval.

But your point stands: respect is an effective platform from which to share ideas. So many folks close off their minds, because they are lonely or otherwise insecure. If you can positively move either of those needles, they listen. From there, the only question is whether they truly internalize the idea, or whether they are chasing the feels of socialization.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would never discourage anyone from trying this, but do you think people haven't already? Most of these people are lost. Their brains have been turned to mush. This shit does not work on them.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't. They are lost causes who simply can't be trusted to make the right choice for themselves or the rest of the country.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

Look at you mister! You are the smartest guy in the room, aren't you! So smart yes you are! Adorable!

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You have to age them out there's no other way, their brains are rot.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think this is going to work. There are just as many younger trump/cultist/conservative voters now as there have been. Church attendance is not falling off and megachurches are getting more and more popular. People have been saying the same thing about the right-wing die-off as long as I've been a voter, and as much as I'd love to see it, I don't see it happening.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Church attendance is not falling off

It is, but far too slowly.

And it's falling off faster in the more moderate churches than it is in the noisy evangelical megachurches

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Well I don't mean in our lifetime but maybe hundreds of years from now it will finally happen. What other choice do we have?

[–] Katrisia@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

I'll sound like Google, but I think you'd like The Brainwashing of my Dad.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, the majority of them are incapable of that regret (or at least admitting it).

[–] Mertn33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Promote them to CEO