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[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

And everyone posting attention to some millionaires in their submarine doing this as an option instead of as a need to get a better life, escape hunger or poverty.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Europe has been dealing with illegal migrants just like this for decades. It's not a new story. The arguments have been made a million times already. Governments argue they need to stop these illegal crossing because they're dangerous, and they're shouted down by activists who believe there are no borders or something. There are billions of poor people in the world. They can't all fit in Europe. I'm sorry, but not every poor person deserves the right to life-long social security in a European country. We would collapse.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honestly this sort of smug superiority cloaked in a thousand years of oppression is so fucking obnoxious.

Why is Europe so rich? What allows you to afford those social systems? Could it have been the systematic pillaging of the economies of the places whose refugees you now so smugly ‘decline’ helping.

The way you frame keeping people from dying at sea as some great burden to the state is fucking disgusting.

You fucking disgust me, frankly.

[–] nanoobot@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You have to admit it is more complicated than that though. It's more complicated than jas describes too.

Is enabling people trafficking by having a fleet of boats hanging out on the libian coast really going to save more people than ending the practice all together?

It's absolutely true that countless other things should be done to help the poor around the world, but I genuinely don't see how encouraging masses of people to set out to sea in sinking boats helps anything at all?

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