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[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Suppression of the suspect's voice really is misinformation on the part of states and corporations, albeit for different reasons.

Relevant laws and policies are employed in order to deliberately withhold public information about motive. They don't want people placing these incidents this within a broader context. There couldn't possibly be a belief set behind the behaviour; the perp didn't have any ideas about how the world works, or who and what caused their circumstances. Oh no.

Why did the shooter go out and shoot people is a completely legitimate question. More than that, it will never be an illegitimate question, no matter how much autistic screeching authorities do. Learning is never wrong, and that includes the publishing and reading of a criminal suspect's thoughts.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Autistic screeching the authorities do

Really dude? Really? I bet far more autists with their strong sense of justice would be on the side of the shooter than the authorities. Especially since autism usually has other health issues that often present with it so they have more first hand experience dealing with the industry.

They’re playing dumb and engaging in censorship because they don’t want copycats.

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 2 points 1 week ago

I agrree they would. Don't read it literally

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no matter how much autistic screeching authorities do

Are you saying autistic people control the government and are the ones oppressing poor neurotypicals?

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's an imageboard meme. Slang for over-the-top complaining.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are autistic people associated with over the top complaining? Should they be?

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The original idea is the stereotype of autistic children who start screeching when something happens that they don't want.

The underlying phenomenon is people failing to cope with discomfort induced by things others don't perceive as uncomfortable. I'm not a psychologist, this is more an informal way to express my own experiences.

For example, a person (possibly, but not necessarily autistic) with sensory issues may find grocery store visits unbearable if the lighting of that store triggers that discomfort, or the hum of the AC, or the general noise of the place. Trying to ignore this discomfort may work for a while, trying to block the triggers may help, focusing on some reward or comfort may help the brain hold on to more pleasant thoughts, but if those fail, eventually the brain will reach a point of overload.

It's particularly bad when some method of coping suddenly fails or the discomfort spikes suddenly. If I was trying to make it through a grocery trip by promising myself some comfort food, then reach the shelf where that food is supposed to be and find it empty, that cuts quite a gash into my mental barrier. Some noises, when unexpected and loud enough, can bring me all the way from "calm" to "overload" in an instant

The exact reaction can differ, with some options being less visible. I usually enter a type of dissociation where only the most routine things still work (like beelining for the checkout, paying and getting the fuck out of there, rest of the grocery list be damned), but since I still function to some degree, it might not look like an overload.

The most visible reaction is probably when the "dam" trying to contain the discomfort breaks so violently that it turns into acute pain, with the result looking much like you'd expect someone in acute pain to react: screaming.

Thus, the most noticeable expression of Autism in people you don't know is probably when something seemingly minor sends them over that edge. You don't see the buildup, you don't see the other ways people deal with the discomfort, you might not even understand the discomfort itself, but you see a child suddenly breaking down and screeching.

There are other things too, like breaking from established patterns, but this is getting top long already. The mechanisms is similar, in any case: The break from the pattern produces discomfort, a sudden break producing sudden discomfort, which can lead to the same kind of overload.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This doesn't seem like the sort of complex and nuanced mental process we should be assigning to a faceless corporation. It paints too sympathetic a picture.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think drag takes this too literally.

Certain image boards turned that stereotype into a meme, where "autistic screeching", aka "REEEEEEE" was used to signify excessive complaints. I'll note that it's a false equivalence that makes light of autistic people's genuine pain, but I don't think drag (or anyone else here) needs an elaborate lecture on that.

In any case, its idiomatic meaning has become detached from the literal one, so when the other user referred to the authorities' "autistic screeching", it most likely was intended to mean "excessive complaints" rather than the whole mental process of failing to cope with discomfort.

I definitely agree with drag that we shouldn't equate corporate calculation with genuine human discomfort.