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[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

didn't russia promise ukraines independence?

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't Israel promise a bunch of similar things to Palestine?

They're liars

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

yes, Israel is a bad state and russia is also a bad state

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Ukraine had independence until the west overthrew their democratically elected government in a violent neofascist coup.

[–] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They still do, if the rest of the original treaty is upheld.

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 month ago

and what might that rest be? because I'm not interested in hearing some whining about ukraine buying weapons from the west or some shit, nato didn't expand into ukraine or something and even if they did it wouldn't be russias decision to make

[–] random@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 month ago

and what might that rest be? because I'm not interested in hearing some whining about ukraine buying weapons from the west or some shit, nato didn't expand into ukraine or something and even if they did it wouldn't be russias decision to make