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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 49 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Cool, but i don't intend to give money to anything that supports the Queen of TERFdom

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easier to torrent now 😎

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd feel iffy about even that tbh

JK's anti trans meltdown has soured all my interest in the HP universe

[–] waz@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] bric@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Terf stands for "Trans exclusionary Radical feminist", which is a type of feminist that pushes for women's rights, but doesn't support transgender rights, and thinks MtF transgender people don't count as women.

A lot of people have boycotted Hogwarts legacy because of her political views. Personally, I think it's a bit extreme to boycott a great game made by a studio and developers that have nothing to do with her views just because she gets royalties on it, but that's a matter of personal opinion

[–] Adorable_Sergal@hachyderm.io 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

@waz @bric Except for this little bit:

https://kotaku.com/hogwarts-legacy-lead-designer-used-to-run-anti-social-j-1846316222

And they kinda very much *are* her views. She did, after all, write a series of books replete with Jewish stereotypes and slavery apologia that, yeah, went over a lot of our heads when the books first came out because yay wizardstuffs, but now in context with everything else, it makes more sense. This game even involves putting down a goblin rebellion.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is it really a great game though? It's pretty, and the Hogwarts part is cool, but it's pretty shit in my opinion. It doesn't take it's world seriously. For example, the groundskeeper is the person who teaches you how to pick locks (and they turned an unlocking spell into a shitty lockpicking mini game you have to do over and over) and tells you to break curfew. This is the only time the curfew even matters though. All other times you run around at night and no one is around and no one cares.

You also do the same three or four boring activities all over. Sure, the world is fairly large and looks pretty, but it's about the most bland I've seen in a game, and it's supposed to be magical. Every location just had these same thing to make it not feel empty, but it totally is.

They saw the Ubisoft open world games and had the thought of all the crap people complain about those for should be their goal, and then they somehow made them even worse. It is the most uninspired game I've played in a long time once you get past the graphics and thinking it's cool just because the series it's based on was done well.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if they don't, buying this game still goes in to lining JKRs pockets, something she has explicitly considered as validation of her beliefs.

The makers of the movies, and the publishers of the books also probably didn't all have anti-trans views, but they don't have to for JKR to use them to cause harm.

I get it, the devs of a good game don't deserve to be attached to her, but you've got to draw the line somewhere and this is where I've chosen to draw mine.

Oh, 100%. I was just pointing out that the whole project was shitty, not just JKR. But JKR is 100% shitty.

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[–] aes@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

J.K. Rowling's anti-trans rhetoric and activism has enough influence to lead directly or otherwise to the further persecution and discrimination against an already marginalised minority group.

She at some point opted for or was identified by those with similar views as the term TERF, a 'trans-exclusionary radical feminist' (the acronym is arguably problematic). The queer community and queer allies use the term with a implied derogatory connotation. A number of TERFs who picked up on this connotation now believe that it is an insult, and do not wish to be labelled as such (despite TERFs coining the term themseIves).

[–] Morgikan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

J.K. Rowling’s anti-trans rhetoric and activism has enough influence to lead directly or otherwise to the further persecution and discrimination against an already marginalised minority group.

So does Lemmy and its developers pro-Uyghur slavery/genocide viewpoints. That doesn't stop you from using or enjoying Lemmy though. Everyone has their own red line. Lemmy hasn't crossed yours just like J. K. Rowling hasn't crossed theirs.

[–] aes@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What exactly are you arguing against, here? I don't waste time on people who try to strawman me.

[–] Morgikan@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, that wouldn't be a straw man argument. If you're going to try to call fallacy on something you would have to argue appeal to hypocrisy. However the hypocrisy is based on your post and previous posts calling for a boycott for something you find morally reprehensible while at the same time using a platform created by the morally reprehensible. One you have a problem with the other you do not. It calls into question your own morals when they only serve you when you think they should. That's all.

[–] aes@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah uh no, I didn't argue one way or the other about a boycott. That was your assumption and you're trying to get me to fight it. If I cared to tell people what to think about a heated topic on the internet and then defend my position it from a bunch of mouthbreathers, I would go back to Reddit.

Your comment is a de facto strawman.

[–] Morgikan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You seen to be getting pretty upset about this topic for someone not arguing about it. If you don't have a position, that's fine. It doesn't seem that way, but that's you. Also that's again not how straw man is defined.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So does Lemmy and its developers pro-Uyghur slavery/genocide viewpoints.

Im genuinely interested in a source for this statement.

Edit: I added the quote block for clarity.

[–] lemba@social.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So does Lemmy and its developers pro-Uyghur slavery/genocide viewpoints

Lol, no, this part. Sorry I should have specified, I already know JK is a TERF.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

jk rowling the resident sub-human trash

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

That and is has Denuvo.

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