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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Is that true? I just checked the reviews for all of the McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania on Google Maps ^[4]^ and none of them appear to have been review bombed recently or have any mention of the UHI shooter ^[1][2][3]^.

References

  1. Location: "McDonald's" (407 E Plank Road, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 16602, United States of America). Reviews. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:47Z. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald's/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb916b8c57b971:0x43e52d4d43c7f597!8m2!3d40.479696!4d-78.402451!16s%252Fg%252F1tgn5qg6.
  2. Location: "McDonald's" (1500 9th Avenue Station Mall, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 16602, United States of America). Reviews. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:47Z. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald's/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb923d0c3d4ce5:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4!8m2!3d40.5115673!4d-78.4017286!16s%252Fg%252F1260fmzqb.
  3. Location: "McDonald's" (406 E 25th Ave, Altoona, Pennsylvania, 16601, United States of America). Reviews. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:47Z. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald's/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb91e1fbd1d469:0xc40981aecec5b3a8!8m2!3d40.5352995!4d-78.4020828!16s%252Fg%252F1tfrhr7m.
  4. Search. Google Maps. Google. Accessed: 2024-12-10T00:44Z. https://www.google.com/maps/search/McDonald's/@40.4797644,-78.4645832,26488m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1.
[–] kabi@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If you're willing to believe a couple of random news outlets:

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/altoona-mcdonalds-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare

https://www.ibtimes.com/altoona-mcdonalds-flooded-angry-1-star-reviews-after-arrest-suspected-unitedhealthcare-ceo-3754683

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/9/altoona-pennsylvania-mcdonald-reviews-go-negative-/

Thanks for the sources! I wish that news articles would actually cite how they know things — it's annoying to me that their statements regarding the reviews are essentially conjecture — I don't want to have to feel like I need to just take their word for it.

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish that news articles would actually cite how they know things

Yep. When I actually started reading some news articles and quickly found out that I was on my own if I want to learn more or verify what I just read, really put me off that stuff.

When I actually post something informative, it seems crazy to not include the links I already have anyway. And make sure it's viewable in the wayback machine if it's something so predictably ephemeral...

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

When I actually post something informative, it seems crazy to not include the links I already have anyway. And make sure it’s viewable in the wayback machine if it’s something so predictably ephemeral…

Citing sources is a practice that I think is sorely lacking in public discourse currently. I appreciate all efforts to quell misinformation and disinformation.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Their reputation and past reporting is supposed to back up things they state as facts (like assuming that reviews they cite are real) for practicality and brevity. Imagine having to document every bit of background research in a presentable way.

They could have included screenshots though.

And the skepticism is healthy. I do personally ‘trust’ Axios (which I read almost daily but regularly double check).

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

[…] for […] brevity. […]

I don't agree that citing sources affects that. For example, anecdotally, a citation can just take the form of a footnote in the document.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

[…] for practicality […]

Imagine having to document every bit of background research in a presentable way.

Well, presumably, that's their job ^[1]^. Being responsible takes effort /s.

References

  1. "Journalist". Wikipedia. Published: 2024-12-10T06:50Z. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:47Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist.
    • §"Roles". ¶1.

      A reporter is a type of journalist who researches, writes and reports on information in order to present using sources. […]

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Their reputation and past reporting is supposed to back up things they state as facts […]

Imo, this in an example of an appeal to authority — an argument isn't sound because it should be, but because it is. I believe that it's a disservice to the truth and constructive public discourse to not cite one's claims.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not hard to imagine thag G**gle would be on the case, deleting reviews by now.

Fair point.

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This one has a review posted 12h ago with 800 upvotes mentioning a rat problem in the kitchen:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/feD3kJKApzpBCfA39

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Good catch. Given that that it's currently still available ^[1]^, I would guess that it's likely not the case that Google is purging reviews. Imo, one review is hardly review bombing, but at least that's proof of one claim made by a news outlet ^[2]^ (It's terrible, imo, that we have to be the ones fact checking claims being made by news organizations. Doesn't that make us the journalists?).

References

  1. Author: Casper van Dujin [To: "McDonald's" (1500 9th Avenue Station Mall, Altoona, Pennsylvania 16602, United States of America). Google Maps. https://www.google.com/maps/place/McDonald's/@40.5115673,-78.4017286,1189m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x89cb923d0c3d4ce5:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4!8m2!3d40.5115673!4d-78.4017286!16s%2Fg%2F1260fmzqb.]. Reviews. Google. Published: ~2024-12-09T18:00Z. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:22Z. https://www.google.com/maps/reviews/@40.5115673,-78.4017286,1189m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!14m5!1m4!2m3!1sChdDSUhNMG9nS0VJQ0FnSUN2OHJpQXFRRRAB!2m1!1s0x0:0x1befd9ef70a8fcf4.

  2. "Altoona McDonald's review-bombed after CEO shooting police tip". Author: "Jason Lalljee". Axios. Published: ~2024-12-10T05:00. Accessed: 2024-12-10T07:27Z. https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/altoona-mcdonalds-luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare.
    • ¶3

      Users left reviews for at least three McDonald's locations in or around Altoona, Pennsylvania, with dozens of people leaving one star ratings and complaining about "rats." Others more explicitly called out "snitches."

[–] badhops@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

and gone newest review was from 2 weeks ago