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[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The US is too good at destroying people's reputation, yeah. This guy is gonna get vilified hard (whether he did it or not).

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Already people are at it coming up with reasons not to like this guy. Are we really expecting someone with perfect morals to suddenly come up with a plan to assissinate a CEO, execute it almost flawlessly and flee?

This guy doesn't have to be my friend. I don't really care if he admired right-wingers. Honestly almost everyone (including me) will have goofy stuff that you can bring up to discredit them. Are we not allowed to acknowledge the good that has happened since the shooting because this guy's book review, a deranged college-age tweet, his preppy upbringing or whatever? We can't acknowledge that authorizations have somehow gotten faster and denial rates plummeted? That a shitty restriction on anesthesiologist time was reversed? A national conversation was started on how strangely focused America media is on covering certain stories and aspect of that story compared to others? That for once the radical left and radical right could somehow agree on something?

These are the questions swirling through my head today. My hope is most people will see through the bullshit, and how to actually effect change quickly is to put real pressure on the top of the organization, preferably through non-violent means, in ways that truly remind them they are not immune from the damage they cause in search of ever-increasing profit.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lol exactly.
I can appreciate his contribution without endorsing his every single facet.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

The whole point here is that we are all people mostly decent with our own flaws.

We have more income than not... it is time to get over ourselves and start focusing on shit that matters like health, housing, and education.

I doubt we will get another moment like this, it is once in generation.

Dismantle the health insurance industry!

[–] MonkeyBusiness@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems to me that social media, through the implementation of posts, likes, up- & down- votes, boosts, re-tweets, and etc., has created an unconscious universal belief that everyone gets a say on what and who is right or wrong through public idolizing or shaming. Masses of people that hold much worse opinions on a daily basis criticize others for saying or doing something that is divergent and exposed. People in the public are held to an undefined standard of perfection. In practice, people assess if they like someone or not, then surgically find anything to support that conviction. Without a bond to the figure or personal consequences to the castigator, understanding and compassion are prevailed over by resentment and hypocritical airs of moral superiority. Public figures become the target of everyone's unresolved unconscious personal social gripes.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

You're right, this is very destructive.