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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I stay the f away from it. You haven't spent enough time to properly train it. As you watch, it tracks time spent on each video, interactions, passive and active choices and slowly builds a dossier on you.

As you keep going, it occasionally throws adjacent stuff in. It starts tossing you stuff that other people with your likes watch. If there is content on there that you'll appreciate, it will eventually find it. If there is enough, it'll stream it to you non-stop.

They'll find people who share your political alignment and say precisely what you want to hear. If you like brunettes with flowy blouses or redheads who are gym rats, you'll get them. If you like skeptics or preppers, you'll get them.

My wife gets a lot of her news from it, I find probably 1/3 of it to be suspect and 90% of it biased toward what she wants to hear. Nothing there is telling both sides of any story. (to be clear we have the same political/ethical views, but I'm a touch more skeptical about journalism and random influencers, especially popular influencers)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My wife gets a lot of her news

Wow, that's scary. I'm guessing a surprising number of people do this as well.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For my wife, it never occurred to her that she could trust tiktok influencers far less than even corporate journalists. They have to ethical requirements on tiktok, no verified sources or corrections or redactions, or any accountability at all.

I had to point that out over multiple videos, although to be fair some of the people on there do put up a front like they are legit to trick people into taking them seriously.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The same nonsense happens on YouTube and Instagram. Just look at the motivations, these "content creators" get paid via ads (so views) and corporate sponsors, so they don't get rewarded for truth, they get rewarded for saying things their spomsors and viewers like.

I'm not saying they're intentionally misleading people, but journalism is hard and clickbait and copycat "journalism" is easy, so they'll tend to do more of the latter.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think its the mentality in america of, "whatever I need to do to get 'mine' is good".

Theres a reason people ask "was it worth it" about nearly everything here. I dont know how to convince people theyd be happier if greed didnt drive their values.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is it shocking that people hear about topics through social media? Seriously? Why? I heard about the UHC shooter through TikTok. And it's not necessarily just memes, there are "real" news accounts on TikTok. The same way I hear about new on Lemmy because people post links to stories. Like the literal platform and thread we are currently discussing.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's not shocking that they hear about news through social media, it's shocking that people trust it anywhere near as much as traditional journalism.

There's no incentive for someone on social media to fact check or tell any more of the story than will get them views.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did you fact check this article?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not personally, but it's from a media org I trust, and they generally do a good job citing sources.

If the BBC got caught lying, it would be big news. If a random influencer got caught lying, people would shrug and say, "that tracks."

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So how is it different if someone sees a news story from BBC's TikTok account? https://www.tiktok.com/@bbcnews

That's not at all what I'm talking about. I also don't use TikTok, so I don't know how their reporting differs there vs other media.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For all its bullshit, YouTube is the same. I've found myself on it more lately precisely because of the reasons you're saying. It's amazing how much niche content there is for any taste, even ones you don't yet realize you have.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Youtube at least realizes when its suggestions are in a rut and gives you that little popup offering to show you stuff slightly outside of your current echo chamber. Just how different it actually is I can't really prove.