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edit: this is a pedagogical post, not a philosophical one. i actually fully agree with the paradox of tolerance and its conclusion! i just find that it doesn’t work as well as an educational tool for introducing people to the concept. sorry for any confusion :)

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. That is the exact conclusion of the paradox of tolerance.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well... half an egg on my face for not reading it, half-kudos for getting it right anyway!:)))

Thank you for the truth! Sincerely!

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

i guess my meme was not clear lol. i fully agree with the paradox of tolerance and its conclusion. i just think the paradox as a tool for teaching people about the nuances of tolerance is ineffective in comparison to the social contract.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can certainly understand where you're coming from, reading the actual philosophical postulates feels like technobabble after a point. But that's philosophy, it really likes $20 words (and so do I, won't lie!:)) )

As for the layman, I think the "talk shit, get hit" rule is a better exemplifier. One would assume that most people understand what the aforementioned "shit" represents, maybe highlighting that Fashspeak is among the vilest examples of such would more easily contextualise it?

Genuinely wondering, I realise that while my intent to study philosophy was my own, the time and opportunities to do so have been a privilege.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

yeah i think that’s valid. something like a progression in a discussion as understanding increases wouldn’t be amiss i feel.

⬇️less understanding

  • talk (or do) shit, get hit
  • tolerance is like a contract
  • unlimited tolerance is impossible; enforcing universal tolerance leads to a paradoxical increase of intolerance

⬇️more understanding

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oooh, I love that, it lays everything out very neatly! I'll totally steal this progression next time this subject pops up!