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How valid is the claim that people coming or going to blue sky/mastodon/X/Truth Social will cause echo chambers to increase? is it bad? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Live_Let_Live@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not universal, and something like 36% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

But all of them voted to ban abortion, so they can sod off with "Well, it's not what I believe"...

Something like 15% believe immigration should increase, and 37% believe it should stay the same. Believing immigration should decrease is a minority opinion among Republicans.

And yet, they voted to eliminate all non-white immigration. So, again, they can sod off.

Not sure what you mean by that, Democrats also want to control health care, that’s why the ACA exists (they want everyone enrolled in health insurance, which gives the government more control over health care).

The ACA regulated health insurance, not health care. Reich Wingers want health care choices controlled, while de-regulating corporations.

If you can be more precise, I can look up some statistics.

Look up the percentage that voted for Trump, and that's your percentage of people who are Reich Wingers and want to have the state tell humans what health care they can get like:

Hormone therapy
Mental healthy care
Reproductive health care

About 41% of Republicans believe religious Republicans have too much control over the GOP, and about 27% of Republicans are unaffiliated with any particular religion, 13% are atheist, and 34% say “nothing in particular” (I guess that means areligious).

What percentage of them voted for Trump?

Because that percentage voted for a Christofascist system of government.

Trumpism is isolationist, which is the opposite of wanting to interfere w/ other countries. There are a lot of anti-Trump Republicans (in 2019, though they’re probably not going to be as vocal this term.

Trump is an isolationist. Unless it's:

Israel
Russia
North Korea
Anywhere in the middle east with brown people living there
A place that has oil, or real estate he can profit from

So if you’re looking for anti-interference Republicans, look no further than Trump. There are also plenty of anti-interventionist Republicans in the anti-Trump crowd as well.

Sure... "Anti-interference", unless it's a friend of his like Putin, or Assad, etc etc.

So yeah, there’s a bunch of stats for you. I’m also guessing we’ll see those numbers go up quite a bit after Trump’s term is up, because a lot of those answers are likely colored by recent rhetoric.

Those stats are meaningless. The only stat that matters is who they voted for.

I could list specific politicians if that’s what you’re looking for, but I find that much less interesting than statistics.

Sure, find me a Reich Winger who isn't what I described. I'm sure they will be a lot like "Trump is really anti-interference!"

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

all of them voted to ban abortion

No, they voted for someone who voted for something that ended up banning abortion. There are a few steps between most people and actual policy.

they voted to eliminate all non-white immigration

Citation needed.

The ACA regulated health insurance, not health care.

And the health insurance that abides by ACA guidelines determines what forms of health care are covered.

Look up the percentage that voted for Trump

People voted for all sorts of reasons, from the letter next to his name (probably the majority) to BS ads on TV (probably a surprisingly high number) to actually thinking he'll fix inflation (even though that's already fixed by the fed).

Very few people who voted for Trump agree with his entire agenda, and many actively dislike him (source: my entire family, neighbors, etc). You can't really tell someone's policy beliefs based on who they voted for, you can only tell a general direction they'd prefer the country to go, and it seems lower taxes won this round.

Trump is an isolationist. Unless it’

Israel

Russia

North Korea

Anywhere in the middle east with brown people living there

A place that has oil, or real estate he can profit from

And how does that compare to Biden or Harris? Trump wants to end the war in Ukraine, Biden/Harris want to extend it and keep sending weapons over. Trump seems to want to end the war in Gaza, whereas Biden seems happy to keep selling weapons to Netanyahu. Biden has bombed his fair share of people in the middle east.

Trump is absolutely terrible, especially on foreign policy, but Biden has been awful as well. That said, I do support helping out Ukraine since it's a defensive war (though I disagree w/ Biden's authorization to use certain classes of missiles in Russia, since those require direct US involvement; at that point, we should just join the war).

The only stat that matters is who they voted for.

I completely disagree.

Sure, find me a Reich Winger who isn’t what I described

Here's an article with a bunch of anti-Trump Republicans still in office. And that's only explicitly confirmed ones, I'm sure there are plenty more who haven't openly opposed Trump, but do intend on opposing some or all of Trump's positions on those issues you listed.