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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 75 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

An ad blitz doesn't matter if your product is junk. Make something that isn't garbage if you want to retain people, people want good products.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft has realised they have a captive market and are milking it for every dollar (euro, pound, yen, rupee...) they can get.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It isn't really captive.

People are rapidly moving away from laptop/desktop computers and applications now a days are predominantly web based which means people can use anything that runs Chrome.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are overestimating the capabilities of the average person. They don't care its all in the browser. Their "computer looks different" and becomes unusable to them. Tech-illiterate people have a hard time with the concept that all browser based things basically work the same independent of OS.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Soon this is going to have the same energy as a delivery driver that can't parallel park.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

means people can use anything that runs Chrome.

Yeah, but a lot of work things are painfully uncomfortable to use on a phone (ERP and EMR software is so much easier to use with a keyboard, mouse and properly sized screen) and most companies aren't going to be running Linux because of all the extra support load, nor are they going to yeet Macs at regular everyday users. Chromebooks don't really get taken seriously in corporate environments IMO.

Similarly, home users who are old school and still want to have a computer - some will switch to Macs, power users will switch to Linux (and switch their family to Linux), but many will just use Windows. Some will use Chromebooks, but those have a bad rep because they used to always be the lowest spec possible (I think it's gotten better now?)

And finally, gamers - personally I use Linux for gaming. Hell, I used Gentoo Linux for years. Yes, for gaming. But a lot of people, particularly younger folks, want to play games with invasive anti-cheat. And those don't run on Linux.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is gonna blow your mind, but most (real) phones you can connect a mouse and keyboard to, either via Bluetooth, or with a USBC adapter, and they work fine.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know. But then you also need a screen. At which point why not have a device that can run a desktop OS?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

No they don't, they have tiny keyholes to look through

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Businesses are bound to Microsoft Office products which only reliably work on Windows and Mac. Windows is the cheaper of the two, by far, and there are way more IT professionals that are able to work comfortably managing Windows systems than Mac ones.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Me: Hmmmmmm, maybe it's time for a new PC. Lets see what's out there.

Stores: Windows 10 and 11

Me: Nevermind!

[–] Midvikudagur@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

May I interest you in our lord and saviour linux?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Take a look at the comments, they explain the issues very well

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee -3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, I use and love Linux, but it's unusable on random unsupported hardware.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

For the person who posted it, it could also be that the hardware IS supported, but it's so obscure that no mainstream distro includes it in their kernel build, not even as a module.

Of course, for the average person, not having the kernel module built pretty much means it's unsupported.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's why I wish they'd release a concept like the Raspberry Pi, but for fully realized mini-pc's. The thing I love about it is I could have 10 SD cards all sitting in a box. And I slide one in, now my raspberry pi is a retro gaming emulation machine.

Then I turn it off. Slide a different SD card in. Now it's a pihole.

Slide a different card in, now it's home automation.

Any new distro you want to try, slide out the sd card, slide in a new one. Your old distro is saved exactly how it was. Just slide it back in, and it's exactly like you left it.

No commitment.

And the hardware is centralized. So if the distro is built for the raspberry pi, you KNOW it'll work. The downside is, it's a rinky dink little arm machine.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Except with real PCs users expect some performance, so these would have to be swappable NVMes. Which is of course prohibitively expensive.

But for a Raspberry, yeah, the ability to turn my Kodi box into a game console is awesome

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Maybe get a Steam Deck? Only kind of joking... Switch to Desktop Mode, and it's literally a fully functioning Linux PC with an immutable distro

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren't those things like $700?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

256GB LCD model is currently $399 (you might be able to get refurbished for cheaper). They have an SD card slot.