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Like people always say reddit is filled with bots, but I looked through the users of the top posts and didn't find evidence that they are bots.

Like how do you know who is a bot? Is there things to look out for?

Edit: And I'd appreciate it if there are real examples of bots getting caught and the evidence of them being bots.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Why do people bother with bots? People often say “to farm karma.” But Karma is literally worthless.

Edit: ah yes, downvote the guy asking a question. Who are you miserable people?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Propaganda. You use the bots to repost and recomment topics that cause division among the populace.

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty suspicious about all the AITA posts these days. So many of them just smell like rage bait designed to pit men and women against each other.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

And Russia has shown that the return on investment for this type of propaganda is incalculably enormous.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

And the karma lets the bots pass simple account limits.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Imagine you want to buy a (thing), and instead of going to a bunch of "10 best (thing) 202X" sites you do the sensible thing and head to the (thing) subreddit.

You get a super helpful comment on the (thing) they like and prefer. You've never heard of this company before but you decide to at least check them out. Bringing traffic to their site, browsing there selection and maybe even buying the (thing) you had no idea about otherwise

What if that comment wasn't real, but a AI LLM powered bot? No it's not your cheap run of the mill bot, but it could be well worth the effort if a company is willing to pay for it.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A minimum amount of karma is required to start threads in many communities. I used to be subscribed to a community that didn't have automated bot detection or a very active moderator and was being hit by bots posting ads to scam merchandise websites multiple times a day. Here's what I observed.

These posts had a few dozen quick upvotes over the first few minutes of being posted along with a few comments from other bots shilling the ad after being posted. These shilling comments also received a bunch of initial upvotes as well, and then all slowly got a trickle of downvotes by real humans after. Real humans also commented to denounce the scam ads a few minutes later, some of which were also receiving a sudden spike of downvotes from bot accounts. The bots would eventually get reported and banned (only from the subreddit because Reddit themselves didn't do crap about bots), and then this would repeat multiple times a day.

I've checked their post history and all of these bots were "dormant" and were farming karma by reposting content and copying comments in other subs and imitating human behaviour for the better part of a year before being activated and used to post ads.

This was only from a scammy merch selling website in a relatively small community and it employed a sophisticated network of thousands of rolling bot accounts, probably more than the number of subscribers the subreddit had. There are countless other bot operations on Reddit for advertising, scamming, astroturfing and propaganda purposes that might be even more sophisticated and difficult to detect.

I've also seen my own original content being reposted by a bot farming karma in another subreddit and I was shadow banned for complaining about it while the bot was allowed to do its thing where it went on using its karma to post propaganda.This is when I quit Reddit and never looked back at this cesspool of a site.

And all that was before AI text generation was viable. I don't know if the majority of Reddit is bot accounts, but the number of bots on it is staggering.

Most subs does not allow you to post if your account is new or is below a certain amount of karma or both. So propagandists are gonna need farm karma in order to begin spreading propaganda.

Bots are used to influence opinions.

Think about it.

Wanna see a country go to civil war?

Make 2 sets of propaganda target towards 2 groups of people, make them hate each other.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Advertising/shilling You have one account ask "what is the best app for identifying hats?" Then you have multiple accounts say, "definitely hattastic" and "I've been using hattastic a lot lately!"

It's because people search Google for "best hat identifier Reddit"

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I have seen scam posts

They seem more credible if its by an account with a lot of karma(meaning that they made good comments/posts)

They also downvote any comment talking about the fact that its a scam

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Look at the any post about Israel or trans.

The number of likes is completely out of proportion to anything else. A top political post might get 1.2k likes, a question maybe 4k, an Israel bot will get 23k, all short replies or replies repeating the original post in that section.

A trans post would get 22k likes, and literally the day after the election they vanished, they now get well under 500.

With a high like count, it gets pushed up into popular and it makes their view look more popular than is actually is.

BTW, almost all the bots on reddit are produced by the moderators of that subreddit.