What an A-hole. Guess he can't afford a saw.
And those damn screws.
this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2024
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That fence looks backwards according to the code I'm familiar with, unless you took this inside your neighbor's yard
Yeah, this looks like this is OP's fence and their neighbor got sick of it
Not according to the title.
It looks like ops fence is the 3-4' tall fence you can see at the bottom of the pic?
Neighbours probably installed his fence so it looks good to him, since it's not seen by anyone else but the OP
If it were facing a street you pm would probably install it the other way
Are there places where code actually requires the person who paid for it gets the bad side?
I hear that a lot, but it's always just been what people said.
Yes, my neighbors replaced their fence after the lockdown and I have the pretty side. There are places that make you do that. And I’m NOT in a HOA. City
I could possibly see it being required by a covenant community/HOA, but code? That seems a bit out there.
What's out there? You are obstructing the view for a neighbor, it seems fair to make it be the better looking side.
Yup, having just gone through a fence replacement thing and our city's building code - of the posts of the fence face your property, it's your fence. So either this fence was installed improperly and with the posts reversed (probably against code), or the OP is the owner of the shitty fence.
On a side note, the other fence also looks like the posts face in - which means there are two fences on the OPs property - another building code violation where I live.
It looks like there is a smaller fence closer to the camera that would be theirs.
You would always have the pretty side if it’s your fence. You couldn’t attach the panels without trespassing on the neighbors property otherwise.
You "always" present the nice side to others.
Maybe for a front yard fence, but not a backyard. Plus if both neighbors put up s fence against each other, you'd have no way to nail/screw the slats to the frame.
If they don’t want it on the property line and they aren’t paying a penny, than nope, person paying gets the pretty side. Why would the neighbor who doesn’t own it or pay for it get the pretty side?
Also, you couldn’t install it without trespassing, so you couldn’t legally build it that way anyways
I've helped build several fences. The solution to this is talking to your neighbour like a normal person and asking if they'll let you do it.
Gross. I'll go without, thanks.
There’s a reason why the person is paying for a fence by themselves on their own property don’t you think? The person did, and the neighbor is being a twat, so now they need to pay double the price and lose property while the dick neighbor gets a free fence and land.
Yes that’s the solution, but obviously people are dicks and thats the situation that’s being talked about here.
Why the fuck do you think we are talking about civilized neighbors here lmfao?
Hey guys, I found the dick neighbour.
If the neighbor was being agreeable you would be splitting the cost on a shared fence. And access wouldn’t be an issue, you’re building a private fence, because your neighbor is a dick. So you can’t touch their property.
If you feel the need to insult someone because you can’t comprehend the difference here, well that’s on you.
But clearly you haven’t built many fences if you haven’t run into a neighbor that refuses you access. It’s why people build private fences… because the neighbors already a dick, and you think you can just talk to them and they’ll let you access their land…? Seriously?
Confidently wrong. Let me know when you eventually google this and realize you're wrong. Or you know, you go outside and look at some neighborhood fences.
Google fortress style fence, it has rails on both sides and the fence looks identical on both sides. Sounds like you should maybe up your Google game yourself before calling someone else out.
You realize the world operates in multiple different ways yeah? Just because your backwards country makes you do something, that doesn’t mean it’s the norm across the world you muppet.
No shit, we have those too, but they obviously cost more so it's not as common. And that doesn't counter the fact that in most locations, the code is to put the nice side facing out. Again, this is the point of contention, not whether a fence with two nice sides exists. Try to keep up buddy, if you can.
The picture is taken in the USA, if you want to join a discussion about fences in the States, then don't interject your country's rules. They don't apply.
There is no codes that say that, maybe local bylaws, but to say code is just pathologically and factually wrong.
But feel free to provide the code that says this, if you can find it, you kind of need to support asinine claims like that.
Also nothing about this picture or anything OP said has claimed to be from the USA, but even than, the model US building code has absolutely no specifications about what side a fence “faces”.
You realize CODES are entirely structural and would NEVER have a stipulation, like that yeah…?
So don’t confuse a local municipal bylaw/ordinace, with “code”, they a fundamentally different things, but of course a laymen like you would never understand a nuance like that.
When you finally resort to semantics to counter, you know you've lost, but... not only that, you're absolutely wrong! Zoning codes are what state which way a fence must face. Lmao, how many more Ls you want to take buddy? Confidently incorrect again!
And still doesn’t link any, what a shocker.
And it’s not semantics, I know codes don’t state it, and local ordinances do, and idiots like you conflate them which makes any intellectual conversations about it nigh impossible.
It’s always funny seeing a lamen talk so confidently about something they have no actual understanding about.
But sure “codes” state that, so let’s see one than, please. So I can show exactly what you’re conflating as “code”.
https://www.oshkoshwi.gov/PlanningServices/Documents/ZoningGuideFence.pdf
There you go moron, lmao, damn, you're a fucking imbecile. Goes to show, you don't know shit about building. Amateur, confidently wrong, smoke blower.
Your link is broken, but I can see it’s a PDF and its name, so I can tell that’s not by any stretch of the definition a code.
But I pulled up the “ordinance” that it likely would be referring (which still isn’t a “code”), and would you look at that, not one mention about what side it should “face”.
So again, laymen with absolutely zero understanding and this is the exact shit I’ve been taking about. You can’t even link the right thing, and it’s not even a code lmfao. But sure insult me to show how correct you are….
The link is not broken it works... and these are zoning code requirements that specify how fences are built and there is a section about which way it faces. I can't help you're computer illiterate and can't figure out how to view a pdf. You lost buddy, you can try all the mental gymnastics you want but this is getting sad and pathetic for you now.
I managed to find an image of it.
And not surprisingly, it doesn’t use the word code, nor does it refer to any building codes either.
They use regulation, requirements and standards, none of those being codes, and all have very specific definitions so they aren’t confused. Yet moronic idiots like you still do it…. See, you’re a fucking idiot that’s conflating local ordinances with model building codes. Codes are for structural things, not aesthetics you muppet.
Man... talk about confidently wrong. That's not the document. And the link/pdf works fine.
Glad to see that you have great interactions with other people as well! I hope you don't forget to downvote brigade them too!
Interesting that the document was issued by the City itself and clearly says "zoning code". Weird. I mean superstar you can't possibly be wrong!
Edit: oh and to preempt this, cause you might make the dumbest argument ever... No this isn't old. I'll even give you a big old arrow to point out the date for you.
You might want to call the Planning Services Division at Oshkosh and tell them that you're right and they're wrong!
Hey, do you notice how that document you provided doesn’t actually say anything about which way the fence faces…? No of course not, you didn’t actually read the thing and wanted to start another fight because you’re a troll. Too busy looking for other shit you missed the entire original point!
Yeah the codes have nothing to do with aesthetics, way to prove my point for me! Lmfao, you truly are an interesting one.
I pissed you off so much you’re going through my comments looking for fights now?
Edit, you must be autistic or something to be this petty and abusive, while also not comprehending what you’re even arguing about.
Holy shit... You're a genius! It TOTALLY doesn't say that at all!
Says the down-vote brigader... You realize this is the SAME FUCKING THREAD that I've communicated with you before? I'm not LOOKING for you. You're just a wart on this whole posts thread.
Look... I'm only dumb some of the time... And this time I think you might be too. :) It's okay though, we're all a little dumb some of the time.
Edited: I replied to wrong person.
Ouch? You sure you meant to send that to me? And not the other dude?
Yeah, my bad...
Like I said... we're all dumb every once in a while.
I do want to let you know though that he's downvote brigading you. He's following your profile and downvoting everything you post, including things you posted days/weeks ago. See my post in the other subthread documenting it for his server mods/admins.
Yeah, he's a douchebag, living a miserable life... thanks for your help.
Cool, maybe you should have provided that in your original comment, but that’s STILL a municipal ordinance, that specific parts not code and doesn’t reference a code like all the other parts. Please provide the actual code, not some pdf without code references.
Yet another laymen that’s conflating shit, what a shocker.
And you must be autistic to not understand this difference and still fighting, I’m just gonna block you now, bye troll.
Also says the person resolving their own comments in other peoples communities so the mods can’t see them, it’s also strange that you know about someone downvote brigading you, why don’t you report them if that’s what you think is happening? Or would you rather just be a troll instead causing shit by stalking g and harassing people? Sounds like you know about it since you do it yourself no?
Ah yes, the literal government organization literally calling it a code, published on the literal .gov site is not "actual code". Genius argument! I love it. When are you going to tell them that they're wrong?
As for your "report" for "harrassment"...
We met in this thread. Literally. Me responding to your posts on this thread would be normal. However, you following me to other communities is not. Even downvoting things that are UNIVERSALLY accepted and upvoted. You've got a sickness in your head dude. You're the offender here. I just don't care enough to cry to your admins about it. But I have more than sufficient evidence that you're ACTUALLY harassing people. Where you have none against me.
Edit: Oh you edited you comment under me! No problem. I'll address them
That's not how that works. It resolved the report ON MY SERVER. Your admins/mods still get to resolve your reports on their server.
It's not. I'm administrator on my instance. I can see all downvotes. Just like Kbin users can see all votes as well. Nothing about up/downvotes are "private".
Already addressed that.
Nope, Only communicated with you here... where we first met. and your mods/admins can check your downvotes. I've only ever downvoted what I saw of you IN THIS POST. Because I'm not hunting you down in other places. Lunatic.
Edit2: Your admins are going to love you abusing the report function... I've already even told you how moderation works in this instance.
Edit 3: Yup, your brigading other users too... Lovely. You even went back DAYS ago for this user... Before you even really interacted with them. You're a lunatic.
Edit 4:
Survey says... you are a liar! If you actually blocked me you wouldn't see my posts anymore to keep brigading them. The fact that you still continue to do it, trawl through my profile every few hours shows how sick you actually are. Even following me to other servers now! What a waste of your life.
Wrong document dipshit, holy fuck you are inept... you can't even open a pdf. You asked for a link, I gave it to you, and you're too dumb to open it.
You think zoning requirements are code…?
Your document doesn’t load, and sorry zoning requirements aren’t code, and I’m sure your PDF specifies that.
I knew you couldn’t find a code that states that, and you didn’t, but try to claim you did dude, sure.
As I said, laymen and the fact you think zoning bylaws are code is just fucking asinine lmfao. What a muppet. This is the EXACT thing I was referring to, and you go and prove it unequivocally for all of us. Fucking idiot lmfao, thinks zoning requirements are fucking code what a fucking idiot.
I guess you don't know me very well...
You do this to make sure no one can stand on the supports and pull themselves up high enough to look into your backyard.
It was a dumb joke about presenting my "nice side" to others. But now I'm curious what goes on in your backyard!
Fences are short enough almost anyone can pull up to look over.
Who told you that’s a thing? Thats hilarous.