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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can escape inflation by substituting goods, and you only lose from inflation if 1. you have too much cash, or 2. your income rises slower than inflation.

If you have enough cash for it to grow faster than inflation, you win and those who have less lose compared to you. So your relative power grows.

Inflation makes the poor poorer faster than it makes the rich poorer, actually it doesn't do that.

And by "inflation" specifically people usually mean devaluation of money due to growth of monetary mass, which itself is a result of closing budget holes with emission.

So UBI is a massive economic/prosperity boost above and beyond inflation. Eliminates poverty and crime, reduces the need for savings,

Eliminates small crime. Superprofits from selling cocaine working together with corrupt officials will not really change with UBI.

Politicians can no longer lie their way past even an idiocracy that understands “I like money”.

There's never enough money.

More program cuts means higher UBI.

Only if politicians act as you want them to.

It would be treason if your AI suggests the empire is not pure good, and Israel has done something wrong, and contradicts the CIA/media disinformation plan.

The problem here is not with what you are describing, but that you are seriously considering treating a computer program as an oracle, that can ask questions about good and evil.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Inflation makes the poor poorer faster than it makes the rich poorer, actually it doesn’t do that.

This is the big lie. Inflation hurts the rich when bond rates are at an insufficient premium to inflation rate. Those who don't have savings, can complain that their work wages are not rising fast enough, but that is a complaint towards their employer who is raising prices enough to pay higher wages if they weren't oppressing their workers.

Corporatist/Republican media helped swing election to most genocidal supportive candidate over this lie. But a war on Russia made the inflation self inflicted.

Eliminates small crime. Superprofits from selling cocaine working together with corrupt officials will not really change with UBI.

Goal shouldn't be that profits can't exist. It should be poverty elimination, easier life for everyone, and inherent resistance to having profits used to rule over you more harshly.

Only if politicians act as you want them to.

It is not power hungry DNC or RNC who will ever provide UBI. It is candidates who want to disempower Israel first wars and rulership. A campaign for UBI is first and foremost an extermination of the corrupt rulership, replacing it with the empowerment of individuals.

The problem here is not with what you are describing, but that you are seriously considering treating a computer program as an oracle, that can ask questions about good and evil.

AI, including current LLMs, as a humanist oracle, has the power to make you/us less stupid if its mission/programming is truth. If its programming is to serve the same empire media disinformation, then surely, it will tell you to support a war on Iran. Any assistance to governance or empire will be how to best conduct a war on Iran. If an AI has a humanist instead of empire domination programming, you can trust it to both advise good/productive policy that is also truthful. If individual people are evil, and have pure evil biases, they can still override their personal AI to provide advice on how to support their evil, so as to make the AI most useful to them, but the default must be humanist/truthful.

Regulating AI for "national security domination" is inherently coopting that oracle function. Google/reddit/lemmy has been such a function of filtering up answers for you to digest for many years already. AI, Internet and other media are all tools that can choose to disinform you into being stupider, or make you smarter and more informed.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the big lie. Inflation hurts the rich when bond rates are at an insufficient premium to inflation rate. Those who don’t have savings, can complain that their work wages are not rising fast enough, but that is a complaint towards their employer who is raising prices enough to pay higher wages if they weren’t oppressing their workers.

I don't understand this paragraph. Maybe it's correct, but the way you use words confuses me. Inflation means that the same real world items cost more of conditional units, that is, money. The bigger proportion of your interactions is done with money and the smaller frequency is, the more you lose from inflation.

Corporatist/Republican media helped swing election to most genocidal supportive candidate over this lie. But a war on Russia made the inflation self inflicted.

What war on Russia? Russia invaded a sovereign nation, leveled cities, killed civilians in droves.

Goal shouldn’t be that profits can’t exist. It should be poverty elimination, easier life for everyone, and inherent resistance to having profits used to rule over you more harshly.

With superprofits from cocaine, prostitution and other forbidden things going to mafia groups associated with politicians - yeah, one would think such profits shouldn't exist. Whichever path you like most, you won't be allowed to tread it while people with the opposing interest have so much power.

It is not power hungry DNC or RNC who will ever provide UBI. It is candidates who want to disempower Israel first wars and rulership. A campaign for UBI is first and foremost an extermination of the corrupt rulership, replacing it with the empowerment of individuals.

So how are you going to do that?

It's like elaborating in detail what you are going to do when we settle Mars and build safe dome cities, without any plan at all how you are going to make that economically plausible.

AI, including current LLMs, as a humanist oracle, has the power to make you/us less stupid if its mission/programming is truth.

No it doesn't, it won't ever be smarter than the dumbest human and also however many oracles you consult, you still bear full responsibility for your own decisions.

Regulating AI for “national security domination” is inherently coopting that oracle function. Google/reddit/lemmy has been such a function of filtering up answers for you to digest for many years already.

Once again, treating these technologies as ever possibly acceptable to tell people what to think is nuts. These are glorified predictors. Their role is to fill the holes where you don't have anything better. These are by definition worse than anything dedicated. And of course they can't think.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t understand this paragraph. Maybe it’s correct, but the way you use words confuses me. Inflation means that the same real world items cost more of conditional units, that is, money. The bigger proportion of your interactions is done with money and the smaller frequency is, the more you lose from inflation.

If your income is rising less than the cost increases of things you are forced to buy, then you lose. The usual blame for your income rising less is that you are desperately beholden to a single employer. Blaming the government for inflation, as hurting the poor, is the oligarchy deflecting blame for their greedflation and war.

What war on Russia? Russia invaded a sovereign nation, leveled cities, killed civilians in droves.

Seems like the popular conviction that they did all of that for no reason at all.

It’s like elaborating in detail what you are going to do when we settle Mars and build safe dome cities, without any plan at all how you are going to make that economically plausible.

A UBI only democratic political platform can promise a net tax cut for 90% of population in addition to elimination of crime, poverty, create massive prosperous economic growth for workers and investors. The only reason to oppose UBI, and it is an important reason, is your political power or willingness to suck up to political power requires misery, despair, and collapse in order to hold it.

If you are saying that Americans are too stupid to not favour UBI over corrupt rulership meant to diminish them, then that history is correct. But the disinformation arguments against UBI that you have repeated are entirely and purely based on "we need slavery" and the rulership that imposes it. There would seem to be some logical hope that the stupidity level required to oppose UBI is not permanent. The message can overcome the well funded disinformation in favour of corrupt evil.

Supporting the DNC after their next leadership election to double down on zionist neocon supremacist rule over US is not the offramp to collapse.