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[–] glizzyguzzler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They gettin into the overseas military bases; talkin’ bout Djibouti and a lil’ Cambodia as a treat

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

4 Chinese bases, as compared to 800 or so US bases. And what is the death toll of Chinese military interventions since the second World War? Not sure, but it certainly isn't racking up to the millions upon millions killed by US foreign intervention. Like the other commenter is saying, don't support nation states, good on you. But doing bothsidesism and false balances when talking about Empire is absurd. Like calling US empire 'less problematic' 🤡

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

China is still in their phase of keeping their interventions within their borders. The "trail of tears phase" so to say

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Of course modern China is an empire. Just without overseas military bases. A soft empire, one might say.

4 Chinese bases

So China does have oversees bases and is therefore in fact not a "soft empire" but a fully fledged empire.

Don't know why you bring up the US, we were talking about China. Which is by your definition an empire and should be treated as such.

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

No, foreign bases does not an empire make. If that was the case, watch out for Bangladesh. This dick measuring between nation states is unproductive and serves to legitimize imperialism itself. Rather than comparing oppressions, our focus should be on understanding and opposing the global system that enables imperial powers to divide and exploit working people worldwide.

[–] glizzyguzzler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no I was just being pedantic

[–] spacedout@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

You got me. Nice one, funny person.