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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Dialect variation. For me, saying “the car needs washed” sounds truly strange but millions and millions of people say it. You’re experiencing similar with this phrase.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the car needs washed

Is there a name/term for this abomination? I've only ever heard one person speak in that form (omitting "to be"), and it has haunted me ever since.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I think you’d call this elision. Assume that the phrase is originally “the car needs to be washed” but you cut out “to be”, making it into a shorter form. It’s pretty common in language to shorten things to make it faster to speak. Think of the endless contractions in English or perhaps leaving part of a sentence completely unspoken because the content is easily assumed by the interlocutors.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

Worse, to me, is that there is a perfectly grammatically correct way to be just as brief.

Wrong:

The bed sheets need washed.

Right:

The bed sheets need washing.

[–] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

'chest of draws' was a weird one for me!

[–] loppy@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe you, I had just never heard it was "wrong" and it's never stood out to me.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Funny enough I learned about it in a linguistics class from a professor out of Michigan. Never heard the concept before and I think a lot of people had their minds blown.