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Former Vice President Mike Pence said he would comply with the law if he were compelled to testify in former President Donald Trump’s trial in the 2020 election case.

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody is saying that his act is pious. But saying that he will act as the other crazies is inaccurate.

And I don't even like the guy!

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

oh, no, I think you’re misunderstanding me— or maybe I should explain better. Pence certainly wound’t do any of this to help them but to help himself. I don’t think we can ever entirely know his motivations but can only approximate or triangulate them based on his past/current behaviors. Pence is a tremendously selfish and self-motivated person driven almost entirely by his own self-interest. He only seems to do anything at all if he thinks he can personally benefit— and, likewise, would not do something if it would be to his detriment.

So, if he does something like the other nutbags, their motivations wouldn’t be the same, just that he thought he could get something out of it. Likewise, he didn’t participate in the vote delegate bullshit Trump asked him to, not because he “believes in democracy” or the constitutional rule of law/transfer of power— it’s because he knew it was a harebrained scheme that would never work, and they’d all end up in jail or worse.

turns out it was the right decision.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Understood. Again, I don't like the guy, but the way you describe things, well, sounds typical of the average politician.

(Republicans like Boebert, Gaetz, etc are not the average politicians. They're way, way, way below that.)

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your average, Republican politician, perhaps… 

Thing is, I’m discussing an explanation for Pence’s behavior based on his specific past behavior in specific, rather unique situations. You’re offering a broad opinion based on a speculation of politicians in general. There’s a difference. 

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Understood, kind commenter. Fair point.