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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

America chose this guy. That's who the faith question should be aimed at.

It's existentially stupid, the warhawks are already circling. Putting what the DNC did or did not do on comparable magnitudes is copium for a selfish, bigoted, ignorant culture that chose this with ample information.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

This happens every time the Democrats lose. The fools come out with their pet grievances claiming the democrats loses because reason. The reason is never the same but always stated as if it has always been the reason. Look at what has been said and compare it to Biden win, much of it can be applied to his run and win and yet these fools make their claims with absolute certainty.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did you really expect tens of millions of Americans to go and vote for Harris just to prove to people like you that they are not bigoted, or selfish, or whatever?

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I expected them to go vote against the racist, homophobic, and deeply sexist, fascist.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, you need to adjust your expectations.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's not defending racism, sexism or bigotry. Doesn't sound like it at all!

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not defending anything, I'm just saying that if you expect people to behave a certain way, and they don't behave that way, you can either continue to expect them to behave that way and be disappointed, or you can change your expectations.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This isn't a child's bad behavior. It's a national problem. Rapists and racists don't get a pass and say "Oh well. We should expect better." They are the problem. They should be handled as a problem.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They should be handled as a problem.

I don't understand. Handled how?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Whatever makes them understand their behavior violates the social contract our society has written.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s the problem. You cannot just expect people to vote against something. Voter turnout happens when there is something to vote for. It may seem pedantic but look at these election results. And the 2016 results..

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They turned out... for the fascist. To be clear, Liberals are pointing the finger at each other but this is the fault of every idiot that voted for Trump. We all know what he is but they want policies and power at the expense of democracy. History won't remember these ppl well.

Voter turnout happens when there is something to vote for.

They voted for the boot. Fuck America's right wing.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree with anything you said; your previous comment as well. I hope it’s a sobering moment for US politics but I’m too cynical at this point to believe that will actually happen (yet)

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The right is drunk at the moment. It's going to take time and awful consequences unfortunately. They may still blame it all on the left. I'll be fighting back.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yup, and the left will always be blamed in an oligarchy/ plutocracy.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The DNC won't save you from them. It's a sunk cost. With all their resources and the power of the government at their back they could not stop authoritarian take over. The people are the only ones that can reverse this and the DNC will be pleading that we just go through the motions one more time. Then just one more time after that.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

and the power of the government at their back they could not stop authoritarian take over.

See, that's the difference between an authoritarian government and a non-authoritarian one. Non-authoritarian governments do not have the full power of the government at their back.

Right, wait till you see what an authoritarian US looks like.