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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Democrats need to understand that due to our complete shit education, most Americans don't understand how a budget works much less the nuance of economic indicators.

It shouldn't have been hard to understand that all of the median income earners did get a wage increase of did not keep up with the massive inflation cause by Trump's botched response and price gouging and talk to it directly.

I know we made fun of VP elect couch fucker when he made that video of egg prices but again, Americans aren't bright or observant. They just got told that eggs are four bucks a dozen, most Americans will latch on and remember that yeah, egg prices were high so that means they're high right now, despite just having been at the store earlier in the week. Democrat should have been heavily pushing back on that, but they didn't. The lie is now truth.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He was mocked because the prices were literally visible behind him in the video, contradicting him

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

And yet here we are.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

FTA:

...for at least 20 million U.S. households, there is good cause for disillusionment. The method the federal government uses to calculate real incomes tends to capture the economic realities of higher-income people better than those of working-class and middle-class Americans.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is so obvious for anyone living paycheck-to-paycheck and it's infuriating to hear the "experts" drone on about how great things are (for them).

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago

It's like calling tech support and having them say "works for me! try reading up on the problem" and hanging up.

It's at the point where I can tell how much money someone makes based on how surprised they were that Trump won.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

While I don't disagree that the BLS has some issues with calculations they tend to just lump everyone in the overall report, they do provide a breakdown of non-supervisor wages.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000030

Wages increase by 17% across for rank and file.

Another study from last year that looked at a breakdown from that and found low wage workers wages increased by 12%

https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2023/

But again, when inflation, everyday Americans don't feel like they're actually making headway, which I can understand because I've been there growing up and Democrats need to be a lot move vocal about that and talk to the working American about that

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the nuance of economic indicators

I think people understand the nuance of pseudo-scientific political numbers being eternally massaged and engineered to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. The shit education is that people actually believe this grift is science.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Biden has had nearly 4 years to fix this and did nothing that's changed our material conditions. All while telling us we are not struggling.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let's see, not the biggest fan of Biden or Democrats but you've got to be a completely dense to say something like that.

Biden economy increased wages for rank and file by 17%, he's helped get unions back up of the ground, he's helped get a shit ton of American manufacturing jobs including getting Taiwan to build a American chip fab going, he and his admin got inflation down without a recession, he got climate change initiative going.

If you're still bitching about egg prices, well have I got bird flu for you.

Did he do everything that progressives wanted, no and of course that is annoying. Was Harris time deaf when she answered the "I wouldn't have done anything differently" when asked about the economy, yes. But to say nothing has changed is complete bullshit and not grounded in reality and you really need live in actual reality.

Edit: just to reemphasize, Democrats suck ass at messaging and publicly and vocally having the workers back.