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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I have a suspicion that Trump is accelerating the plans for Ukraine to build nukes. They simply cannot wait for aid to slowly come in any more.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That has always been Ukraine's implied threat if aid stops. The fact it needs to be spelt out for the dummies is kinda sad. Ukraine has the technology, knowlege, material, and expertise to build one in 2 weeks (if they havnt already built one).

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Who can build a nuclear weapon in two weeks? I’ve hunted for a source on this and can’t find one. Can you help a guy out?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

"Can we build this nuke in 2 weeks??? YES WE CAN!!!"

~~Bob the Builder.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

From scratch it's obviously not feasible, but having been a former Soviet state I'd imagine a good majority of the resources needed are floating around.

The main challenges with nuclear weapons are 1. procurement of the fissile material, 2. yield efficiency, and 3. miniaturization. Once you have the first part done, as Ukraine very likely has the nuclear fuel processing facilities to do so, the second part is less important if you just want a bomb. Just look at the fact that they were so confident the Little Boy would work they didn't even bother with a prototype, even if its yield ratio was quite low. It needed about 60kg of uranium for its 15kT yield, while Fat Man managed 21kT with only about 5kg of plutonium.

So, it's a tradeoff where if nuclear material is hard to come by and you need to get the bomb somewhere far away, making something really efficient is pretty important. However, if you have sufficient material and just want a decently big boom in the middle of a field, it's quite literally something you could feasibly manage in a home workshop.

The one other note on the importance of efficiency is in regards to fallout. Anything that isn't used in the detonation is blasted every which-way, and isn't really something you want as a normal military, since a nuclear wasteland isn't strategically very useful. But, if you're just trying to fuck up someone else's day, then its less important and you can get into really "fun" stuff like dirty and cobalt bombs.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Building a nuke is pretty easy. Just put 2 spheres of plutonium or enriched uranium at either end of a tube add a regular bomb on each end and duct tape it to the front of a regular missile.

[–] learningduck@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Do they have the facility to enrich uranium, though?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

Yeah they have nuclear fuel reprocessing

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

afaik (though i have pretty limited knowledge here) if you have nuclear power you can make nuclear weapons

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

All you need is a brilliant high school student with a knack for nuclear physics, a rebellious streak, and a desire to prove their intellectual superiority. As shown in the 1986 documentary, The Manhattan Project, even a resourceful teen can assemble a nuclear weapon in a matter of weeks if they manage to access the right materials. Just look for someone with the right mix of ambition, genius, and a little disregard for the rules, and you’ll have yourself a homemade nuclear device in no time!

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 days ago

Are you paying the overtime?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, basically any nation state with the money, materials, and knowledge to do it now that people outside Los Alamos know.

Dude a boy scout named David Hahn built a nuclear reactor and a neutron gun, it can be done.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Do you think that is also plan B for Taiwan? My guess is they would be able to build a nuke as well

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I haven’t heard anything on that front but it would be a damn good idea for Taiwan.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 0 points 4 days ago

Taiwan has "nukes" they have missiles they claim can reach and breach the Three Gorges Dam. It's like an environmentally friendly nuke!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Do it like the top secret Kursk Operation.