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[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've always been very pro Last Jedi - there's some shaggy elements to it (in particular, low speed chase is kind of silly) but overall I actually really like it - Luke and Rey's arcs are both good. I also really like "rey from nowhere" and the fact they recanted all of it was truly dogshit storytelling.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I read that RJ wanted the suicide hyper drive attack to be done by Leia and got overruled. That would have made so much more sense.

Her tapping the force to pull off a once in a lifetime thing that even veteran pilots and computers can't do.

Like Luke with the deathstar.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That would actually make sense as well, because that scene raises the question of why don't pilots just do this all the time. Requiring force sensitivity to properly pull off a kamikaze move gives it a good reason to be near impossible

[–] worlds_okayest_mech_pilot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At the risk of combining pedantry with Star Wars nerd crap, I believe (this is just what I remember) that there's a line or two in the movie that states that the ship's shields were fully down, and it's implied that this is the only reason why the suicide attack worked. In lore, shields on ships are primarily for physical objects (like asteroids and crap), so it makes sense to me that they can, I guess, magically repel even other ships in hyperdrive unless the shields are down.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

From the debate at the time, I think it was a timing thing too, you jump too soon you’re an ethereal hyperdrive ship that passes through them, you jump too late their shields are up and /or their tractor beam is stopping you (for small kamikaze ships).

That’s why I think Leia should have done it and for any non force user it would have been next to impossible etc. Plus it completes Kylo’s ascension that both his parents are dead.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

That would have been actually awesome. Should have let him cook

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ray from nowhere and the kid with the force at the end was a great message that a hero can be from anywhere.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ray being a nobody and Snoke getting killed without any backstory was two of the best twists possible. Both undone.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The throne room battle was actually sick as well and yeah snoke getting smoked was 10/10

I thought Snoke getting smoked was one of the coolest uses of a standard "evil chair alien" that I've ever seen. Just a cool twist that set up a power vacuum intrigue with Kylo Ren. Que my immediate bafflement when I went online and saw legions of nerds malding that Supreme Lord Snoke didn't get hours of backstory and lore explanation.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh yeah the throne room fight was good, like more of a brawl than over choreographed stuff in the prequels.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah very reminiscent of the ROTJ sand dunes fight in some ways, lots of chaos even tho it's less kinetic (the back and forth between the barge makes that one way cooler in many ways)