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Russian official Dmitry Medvedev, a close ally of Vladimir Putin, suggested Donald Trump’s election victory may benefit Russia’s interests in Ukraine, citing Trump’s reluctance to fund “idiotic allies” and “voracious international organizations.”

Although Medvedev stopped short of celebrating, he hinted Trump’s aversion to foreign spending could weaken U.S. support for Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky cautiously congratulated Trump, recalling their recent discussion on U.S.-Ukraine cooperation.

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov maintained a guarded tone, noting the U.S. remains an “unfriendly country” involved in the Ukraine conflict.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 92 points 1 week ago (16 children)

RIP Ukraine, Palestine, and Taiwan. It was nice knowing you.

I hope any Jill Stein voters are happy

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (13 children)

The Jill Stein votes wouldnt even make a dent in the staggering votes for the Republicans...

[–] quafeinum@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where are the other 20million voters that didn’t show?

[–] CanadianBeetroot@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At home. Too lazy to do anything.

I was playing Catan online yesterday as the results were coming out, I asked the chat if anyone was from the US. Out of 4 players, 2 where from the us and one didn’t bother to go vote. I was shocked. He didn’t even have a good excuse.

That should tell you everything you need to know.

Trump didn’t win…It’s the people that failed to show up.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tbf, while liberals realize that we need to change the electoral college system, so long as it is in place, there are a good many states where votes don't actually matter. Either bc >70% of the state will vote blue (Democrats) in which case it is over-kill or similarly red (Republicans) in which case it is under-kill.

Also, remember that some votes remain yet to be counted, bc they were sent in via mail. Mind you, we already know (bc of the electoral college system) that these will not change the outcome of the election - though they will increase the amount of the popular vote, especially since the people that tend to send those in tens to be liberal.

On the other hand, maybe a massive showing up of liberals would have helped if Kamala had won, to show how much more massive the popular vote for her was, in comparison to for Trump? Except... would that really have convinced people who were literally gearing up for an actual civil war (or at least an "event" along those lines - perhaps another January 6th style occurrence) to forestall such? I am not convinced that it would.

Also, some people never got their mailers to use for their mail-in ballots, e.g. that story (was it ever validated?) of the landlord in I want to say California who was caught sending in the mailers for his renters. If all you need is the envelope, that's a security concern, and I would like to know how many people report not ever receiving those envelopes to begin with.

Bc those aren't merely votes that could potentially have gone to Kamala - bc then again, a lot of seniors were voting for Trump so we certainly can't say that all would - and instead some may count double if they were made out to Trump. But possibly a low number, I dunno?

And COVID may have changed the game in terms of how readily people will step outside to vote. Also especially younger people have trouble getting time off their jobs, and lines this year were SUPER long - I mean hours and hours long, and with only rudimentary toilet facilities available. I UNDERSTAND why people would want to use more mail-in votes than having to do that.

But, quite possibly it was simply the Gaza situation that caused people to not be enthused about voting for her? I hope we see some kind of analysis to reveal what the true answer ends up being. In the meantime I wanted to mention the above factors that at least make the situation more complex than your one person did not vote story was able to get into:-).

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They didn't matter at all, because he won the popular vote as well - half of America wanted this.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Oh... you mean even without having counted the mail-in ballots?

Damn, my brain is not wanting to make sense of this so hard right now.:-(

I am so glad that Jon Stewart decided to renew for another year - I need him so much!:-)

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stop being in denial. It's not like 100% of those who didn't vote would've voted democrat. They didn't care to vote, so they could've voted for either side cuz they clearly don't have a strong preference.

Trump won and won even the popular vote. And you are still crying "stolen election".

[–] CanadianBeetroot@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I will just start off by saying I’m not a US citizen.

Second, I never cried out “stolen election” but you clearly sound like a MAGA supporter so I won’t waste too much of my time on you.

All I said was people didn’t show up to vote. I cannot believe people don’t make the effort to go vote in your country.

Good luck with your future. And I don’t want to sound sarcastic, I’m being honest. Good luck

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