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The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's past time everyone realized the people running the DNC just don't really care if a republican wins.

The only danger to their careers or quality of life is if a progressive wave takes over the party, because they won't keep pro-corporate people in leadership positions.

And they legally control the primary, so they never have to give up power.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

There are a lot of "leftists" here on Lemmy that have been quite vocal about not caring about, or even preferring if Trump wins, but for way less consistent reasons.

I don't think that this is just a problem with Liberals. People keep using the office of president as a battleground for single issues, and end up throwing the baby out with the bathwater every time.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

People keep using the office of president as a battleground for single issues,

Yeah, like when Obama ran on healthcare and flipped all those red states...

What "single issue" has any of the subsequent Dem candidates ran on besides "my name isn't trump"?

We can't just keep running these "moderate" candidates and keep acting surprised when Dem voters reject them. Biden barely pulled it off, and both Hillary and Kamala failed miserably.

Neoliberalism is not a valid strategy

Now, it's possible you meant single issue voters, but I just didn't think anyone would make that claim and try to blame 5-10 different groups with separate "single issues".

But who knows, a neoloberal just lost the presidential election, were about to see crazy level of mental gymnastics about how the party needs to move even further right.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Foreign policy is the one single issue that is actually relevant to the presidency. Despite what recent history shows, constitutionally only the president can declare war, with the support of congress. Of course in practice we’ve been at war for all but a few years of our near 250 year (failing) empire.