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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 177 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Pour one out for America and Ukraine, and the Middle East in general. And Taiwan.

Europe and Asia, you guys better get your shit together, we might be out of this one permanently. Or we might have a very long recovery time spanning decades. Such fucking bullshit.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know Americans get upset when I say this to them but honestly, I think it's the time the United States broke up, it's too big, it's too powerful, and as soon as someone like him gets in charge everything goes to shit.

If the United States was smaller it wouldn't matter as much if a random dictator got in charge of a small bit of it.

[–] quantumantics@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an American, I'm in agreement with that in concept. Partition would be a harrowing process though, as people scramble to go where they feel they belong. I'm not sure such a process could happen without another civil war.

[–] Banik2008@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Czechs and Slovaks managed to do it in a civilised manner only 30 years ago, so it's not impossible.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 23 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

American are known to be very civilised and smart

[–] genXgentleman@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

You're either being sarcastic or you don't live in the U.S. I'm currently living in Louisiana, and I'm surrounded by racist idiots.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

What’s their landmass in comparison to the US?

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was saying this the last time around. America is too big and the parties are too polarized, the federal government can't fairly represent all of its constituents at once. At any given time, half of the population is being underrepresented.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 16 hours ago

Well that's a good point as well it really doesn't help that the Americans have decided to turn their politics into something so tribal.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's more practical than just reforming the election system, apparently. Ugh.

Oldschool Republicans may have a point here too, perhaps less federal power is better.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Europe and Asia, you guys better get your shit together

Yes, it's now or never.

Who am I kidding, we won't do anything, of course. Everyone will huddle in his corner.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

In Europe particularly the big problem will be Turkey and Italy as usual.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For the sake of my mental health I'm currently trying to gaslight myself into thinking that Trump being president isn't bad. But the truth is there is no realistic way the country is coming back from this. Not in my lifetime at least.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

The only hope is that he's so far gone mentally already that he ends up mostly doddering around the oval office. The problem is he's already surrounded himself with the most vile people who will have no problem doing terrible things in his name.

Maybe he'll die and JD Vance will magically regain a conscience.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe he’ll die and JD Vance will magically regain a conscience.

God the only hope is that JD doesn't become president, in name or practice.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

At least JD is an unknown quantity with some oddly left leaning positions in his past. We know what we're getting with Trump and it's terrible.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 9 hours ago

JD doesn't have a spine. Due to childhood trauma, he adapted to whatever POS stepdad needed him to be, and still exhibits similar qualities as an adult. Not a good leadership quality in stressful situations, lol.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Yes, but he's also claimed support for industry-level collective bargaining like Europe has. He's probably lying, but who knows.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

That's a feature for these people not a bug, he'll be a hollow shell for his cabinet to pass what they want to pass

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Indeed. This election was won by Vladimir Putin.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. Our European society is in decline.

Recently we had some floodings on Valencia. We are aiming for 300 dead... In a modern society 300 dead because of a flooding, the same dead tool as in 1957 when the same area flooded. Our society is definitely failing.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Just read an article in the guardian by a climate scientist lamenting how many times he and his colleagues presented flood risk data to city officials in Valencia but time and time again they ignored them. Very sad.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Recovery time? Getting our shit together? Europe and Asia won't survive the climate collapse either. I don't know why you people talk like this.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there is no coming back from this one

[–] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, we have millions of imm.... uh, enemies to kill at home before going abroad.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 23 hours ago

And Taiwan.

If there's one thing Ds and Rs agree on, it's the need to start a war with China