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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A disaster for the whole planet as well..

[–] ayamohamed@hexbear.net 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, I agree with you. He is a crazy man and does not have any kind of wisdom. I did not expect him to win.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Me neither. I was convinced this mad times are finally over with harris and that we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.

Now we have this fucking dictator loving orange clown, again. FFS how can people vote for this motherfucker after those 4(or even 8) years of nightmares (Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done)

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done

He expanded upon them

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I would not say that personally, but I respect your opinion.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 27 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.

That was never going to happen, she was adamant about her support for Israel even when it was obviously detrimental to her.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Well, she is not the only person to decide, and there are more democrats in favour to stopping the genocide than there are republicans with own opinions.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Democrats have been in power since the current genocide began

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 52 minutes ago

Well, democrats hate a demented president and I believe the power in the senate (where decisions about policies are made) were republican. Additionally, only because the democrats do a bad job, it doesn’t mean that republicans can’t do it even worse.

Trump has stated that he thinks genocide-Bibi is doing “a good job”. I hope that says it all, isn’t it?

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 17 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

doubt Most of the Democrats are pro Zionism.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 56 minutes ago (2 children)

What are your sources about that? And I was not talking about majority vs minority, but count of not-zionist-democrats vs count not-zionist-republicans

So in other words, I bet, the brave people that demonstrated for 🇵🇸 in America are more likely vote democratic than republican

And, of course, a dual-poly government (like only two strong parties) is nearly as bad as only one party government, so it is reasonable that US people always have to decide between bad or worse.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 8 points 52 minutes ago

Yes but the base has no actual power within the party and the leadership is as zionist as the republicans

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 5 points 49 minutes ago

I don't have a source for how many Democrats are Zionist vs. how many Republicans. It doesn't really matter, because as long as the majority of a party supports Zionism, who cares if technically the other party supports it more?

[–] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 21 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I’m sorry to differ but all Harris will do is toe the line and preach “reaching accros the aisle” and support the genocide…

[–] ayamohamed@hexbear.net 11 points 3 hours ago

Yes, I agree with you, my friend. Also, Hartz is not ideal. But we were hoping that there would be American pressure on it to stop the genocide, unlike Trump, he doesn’t care about anyone, he’s crazy

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yea, but we would had have a chance talking reasonable with her, since she is thinking more or less rational unlike some other orange idiot.

[–] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 5 points 48 minutes ago

Sorry, I come across as bitter and cynical, maybe you’re right, maybe things would change. I just don’t have much hope left anymore, and I wasn’t particularly impressed by her run for the presidency, and her tendency to deflect important questions.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 21 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We can't depend on Democrats to stop Trump, this is now incredibly well proven. We have 4 years to figure out something else.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

I fear many won’t survive another 4 years 😞

[–] ayamohamed@hexbear.net 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I was also wondering how these people agreed to him in the elections. This world has become full of lunatics. Even Haaretz and Trump are two sides of the same coin. He will say continue the war and Haaretz will say stop the war while continuing the genocide.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

There is never the choice between good and bad, but Harris had more good than trump, which in my opinion has none good other than chaos which may lead collapse to new societies which may or may not be better..