There was some talk of this issue in the recent fediverse inefficiencies thread. I'm hopeful that in the future we'll have a decentralized solution for file hosting but for now I deeply believe that users should pay for their own file hosting.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

What is stopping some big giant, let's say Yahoo/Verizon from buying a shitload of storage, starting their own private instance which is open to the public, but private in the sense that only Verizon employees are admins and mods. Only Verizon controls things. Then advertise to the point that the average person on the street knows that Verizon.Lemmy exists, and assosiates Lemmy with being a Verizon thing? What is stopping big tech from pouring the money required for this concept to take off, and using their control over their instance from making the decentralized a centralized service in the general public's minds?

Right now Lemmy is 60k people. Ok. What if Lemmy was 200 million people, and only 60k knew it was a decentralized service? Everyone else just thought Verizon owned Lemmy?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 12 points 10 hours ago

Isnt this the exact reason why there was such concern over the idea of Threads federating with the fediverse at large?

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

This is literally exactly what happened to email. It didn't go great

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Either they federate and all their users are exposed to the rest of the fediverse, or they don't and they may as well be a separate thing

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. What I'm saying is, they federate, but people have no idea what "federate" means. So they'd come here, and see "@smeg@feddit.uk" and not understand what feddit.uk was.

They would see you, and think you are a user of the verizon owned service. Not question it one bit, and just move on thinking it's all verizon.

The same way people in Atlanta will say "I want a coke" "What kind of coke?" "Root Beer".

Or the same way parents in the 90s would say "I bought you a Nintendo Game!" then you open it, and it's a Sega Saturn disc, when you have Sony Playstation. It's all just a Nintendo to them.

I'm saying if Verizon grew Lemmy to 200 million users, and all except 60k were on the Verizon instance, then despite being incorrect, Lemmy becomes "The Verizon owned Facebook".

Doesn't matter that it's federated.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago

I guess that's what instances are trying to avoid by preemptively blocking Threads. If everyone else blocks it then Lemmy carries on existing as it is. And I can't imagine big corpo wouldn't want to create their own name.