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Who are the good guys in the Israel/Palestine conflict? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, because the foundations were colonial, we should ... kill everyone living in said country?

Is that a serious argument? Because then we have a lot of places to eradicate.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First off, the foundations remain the same, colonial.

Second off, is creating a secular democracy without an apartheid system, aka "destroying Israel" going to kill everyone? Did the collapse of apartheid South Africa kill all the white people there?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The collapse didn't. But the goal or "Mission" of the Hamas is to eradicate all jews.

So yes, Israel falling would result in the eradication of a vast majority of the Jewish people.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But the goal or “Mission” of the Hamas is to eradicate all jews.

Source that isn't from the 90s when they were a marginal fundamentalist group and not a leading member of a coalition fighting for a secular democracy?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hama's fighting for democracy, ye.Just as the Taliban I guess. Iran also wants to support the Hamas in establishing democracy because Iran has a flourishing democracy and they want to spread it further. That's also why Russia and by extent north korea support the Iran and the "democracy coalition" of palestine, those are also big fans of democracies.

With all due respect, but if you want to believe the Hamas and other terrorist groups want to fight for "freedom" instead of eradicating the entire Jewish population, discussions with you on this topic are fruitless.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

With all due respect, but if you want to believe the Hamas and other terrorist groups want to fight for “freedom” instead of eradicating the entire Jewish population, discussions with you on this topic are fruitless.

These people are a terrorist caricature one could find in a bad American bush era movie to you, aren't they?