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maybe-later-honey They took my grandpa's slaves!

morello-shred Cry about it.

Also what kind of a fucking name is Robby Starbuck.

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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wtf I thought Tom Morello was a lib

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah he's always been based. He used to have "arm the homeless" written on his guitar.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really liked this one, too (photo is of a replica):

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Promoting the Shining Path is pretty cringe though.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Ratm also did Free Tibet stuff as well. Hopefully, they outgrew that.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Tibet and Tiananmen Square were big anti-China talking points at the time, even Chumbawamba did a Tiananmen song. It really doesn't feel like Free Tibet had any legs past the 90s, though.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know next-to-nothing about Peruvian politics. I've always thought of them as problematic—overall better good than bad—but I don't know any specifics. Is there somewhere I can read more about it?

Asking in good faith, of course. Not as a "SOURCE???? berdly-smug" dipshit, obviously.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's been a while since I looked into it, but what I remember finding was that they engaged in a lot of terrorism that wasn't necessarily directed at the ruling class.

-Massacred a lot of peasants.

-Including babies

-Sometimes executed people with boiling water or other forms of torture

Abimael Guzman, their leader, IIRC admitted to most of this in interviews and called it revolutionary excess.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've seen some dispute the boiling babies thing, but everyone seems to agree they killed a whole lot of peasants.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

My understanding is that boiling peasants isn't disputed, and neither is killing peasant babies, but that specifically boiling babies is disputed.

For me personally, "Hey, we only scalded adults to death, we shot their babies" is still really bad. That's like some IOF stuff.

[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

And it became ridiculously cult-like later in their existence, owing it more to their leader than any kind of revolutionary stance. And still kinda are to this day

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

I don't know that much about them, but from what I've seen, they don't seem to be liked around here (and may have been backed by the CIA?).

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

You should check out his pro Union album

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

He always gave me anarchosyndicalist vibes.