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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[โ€“] foggy@lemmy.world 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The good guys are the citizens who want none of this.

The bad guys are the citizens who want all of this, and the military personal behind the weapons, and the generals calling the shots.

Same as it ever was.

Edit: Lemmy.ml disagreed and nobody was surprised ๐Ÿ™€

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This simplistic one size fits all argument falls flat when one side is being occupied and ethnically cleansed by the other side. It implies that Hamas is the โ€œbad guyโ€ and all other occupied Palestinians are the โ€œgood guy,โ€ and it implies that non-military Israeli settlers are the โ€œโ€˜good guy.โ€ But the truth is that the great majority of adult Israelis are militant settler-colonizers; and that Palestinians have the legal right under UN law to struggle against their occupiers by any means necessary, including armed struggle; and that Israel, as an occupier, has no right to โ€œself defense.โ€