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[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 4 days ago (6 children)

You have only 2 outcomes. You can go there and shit on the ballot, that's an option. But it doesn't change having 2 outcomes.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago

Elections are not isolated events in a vacuum, devoid of context, purely about which genocidal Imperialist wins.

that workers’ candidates are nominated everywhere in opposition to bourgeois-democratic candidates. As far as possible they should be League members and their election should be pursued by all possible means. Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled.

From the Mario and Luigi of Communism, marx-hi blushing-engels

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago

At this point you're so fucking annoying that I kinda want whatever outcome hurts you

You're doing a great job campaigning for trump-moist but we just won't vote for him sorry

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's actually an immense number of choices, but only 1 outcome, it's the same shit with either of the two possible winners. This is your candidate. I'm sure the woman who voted against federal funding for abortion on two separate times will turn out to be a great crusader for Roe v. Wade

The best you can do is work towards creating an alternative for the future, which requires that you do not vote for them - And I need to be clear, not voting for them is less than the least you can do. The least you can do is go out and [redacted]

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You have only one outcome: the USA will move rightward.

To the extent that voting matters in a fundamentally broken electoral system like ours, voting for the democrats is an affirmation of the choices they have made: affirmation of their choice to arm genocide in Gaza, affirmation of their choice to move right on immigration, affirmation of their choice to abandon death penalty abolition from their platform, etc.

Why would they ever change course as a party if they still get the only thing they want from you either way? Lesser evil voting is a race to the bottom, and the longer people wait to correct the democrats' course, the more painful it will be to endure a republican government in the meantime.

The democrats will never stop this country from its rightward trajectory if they keep moving rightward with it because their base continually validates them.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah electorialism is a fuck, but if you're the type that believes in it, then you have to accept that it only works if you vote for someone who represents you, not for whomever least doesn't, but is also able to win the whole thing.

Representative democracy only works if you vote for a representative.

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

Two outcomes for the election, not two choices. You exist outside of a ballot box

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Insert irish and Malcolm X stances