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I'm guessing it's like Christianity where there are leftist Christians who follow Jesus' more progressive messages such as giving to the less fortunate and healing the sick, and then there are the scary Christian evangelicals that want A Handmaids Tale and conversion therapy. Logically, Islam probably isn't a monolith in a similar way other religions aren't.

However, I have never heard about what those of the Islamic faith actually believe outside of the hysterical post 9/11 Islamophobia I've been indoctrinated with as a child.

I want to know what the truth is and hear the other sides story. To me it's obvious that Islamophobia is wrong, however when Islamophobes make wild claims about it, I can't really refute them confidently because I'm simply ignorant of the facts. Please educate my dumb, white ass.

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[–] accarezzu@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Ex-muslim here!

While there are obviously a lot of different interpretations and sects of Islam that have different feelings on these matters, the short and most correct answer would be basically, yes, Islam is one of the most homophobic and misogynistic religions out there.

Most Muslims are extremely conservative in their beliefs when it comes to these topics. I'd say it's honestly safe to assume that most every Muslim you come across is likely going to be a raging homophobe and/or misogynist.

All religions are pretty shitty in my opinion but Islam has been the worst offender and is the most cultish in my experience. There's a site I linked below that goes in depth on things like this, so you might wanna check it out.

About Women

About Homosexuality

Edit: Firstly, this should go without saying, but I don't support the genocide of the Palestinian territories by the IDF. I don't necessarily support the religion but I sure as hell do not support a genocide against innocent people. I don't think my comment suggested I do, but clearing this up just in case before more of yall come into my inbox being all butthurt. Secondly, after reading more responses on this thread, I'm going to leave this here: I'm not and will never be an islamophobe, and I respect all Muslims (even the ones who are queer and/or women and muslim, I will never understand how you could do that though) but, I am extremely critical of the religion, and I think it's not a very healthy one. It isn't up for debate on whether or not Islam is homophobic and misogynistic based on my personal experience growing up as a queer male Muslim who had to hear how even my normally-very-accepting-of-other-people family wanted to "kill all the homos". And I mean, they even say shit like women are intellectually deficient and that you should stone Queer people for... existing. It isn't "IsLAmoPHobic" to be critical of these aspects of the religion, it's 'Islamophobic' to demonize all Muslims for the actions of a few (a.k.a Al-Qaeda, ISIS, or Hamas) or make those weird 9/11 'jokes', but alas, I suppose Lemmy isn't really ready to have this discussion.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Ex muslim too and there was a period where I saw islam as being uniquely homophobic/mysogynist/etc, but these days I feel like that's just due to the damage imperialism/colonialism has done / is doing to muslim countries, not giving them the opportunity to start making social progress.

And as other comments have pointed out, the imperial core tends to prop up and fund the most reactionary islamic groups.

Calling islam uniquely bad can lead to some pretty fascist shit, like this popular ex-muslim youtuber whose content has now just devolved into zionist propaganda

[–] afters@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t agree with this view. Islam is not uniquely more homophobic or misogynistic than the other abrahamic religions

I’m falling asleep as I type this but I feel the need to write a bigger response in the morning

[–] accarezzu@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Huh. Personally, I've witnessed Islam really be on a whole other level with the misogyny and homophobia, but maybe that's just me.