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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Are there really many voters undecided between Harris and Trump?

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

sadly yes. there are people who are still on the fence. given that 70million people will look the other way and vote for him despite the lies, dementia, racism, Facism, Nazism, narcissism, sexism, felonies, fraud, racketeering, sexual harassment, etc. I'm not surprised a few million are on the fence.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Naw there's just a bunch of people who won't admit they're voting for Trump when you ask them. They also don't want their friends/community thinking they're voting for a Democrat either so they just lie and say they're undecided or even more likely Independent™ because that sounds cool anyway. They know they're voting for a fascist but also want to have their cake too and not publicly admit it.

They may not even want the fascist part. But they're voting for Trump because they think one day they'll make over $500k/yr and they don't want to pay "200% more taxes" (it's actually 2%) when that day inevitably comes. The rest of them secretly would rather kill their children than let a black woman run our country, but they'd never say it.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Statistically, that's just not true. Just look at the differences from the polls, the margin between Harris and Trump has moved quite some percentage points back and forth. E.g. after RFKs endorsement, more undecided voters went to Trump and after the debate, more went back to Harris.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 4 days ago

That's a whole lot of fantasy to be specifically mad about.

There's lots of reasons and likely a lot of issues for each individual that they have felt unseen or unheard on.

But it sure is easier if you can just say everyone is a Trump voter so that you can swing and point fingers around wherever you want. It's easy and lazy.

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

actually, i think they know they will never make 500k a year. they are voting for trump because he hates they people they do, and he validates their racist behavior.

they also believe some of the lies he sprouts about immigrants stealing their jobs and being a drain on the system.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

I have a friend who voted for Trump and now he is undecided. Now he is saying he isn't voting for anyone. I guess that's better than voting for Trump. He lives in AZ. So that is sorta a win.