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[Rant] I swear to fucking god. Windows is harder to use than Linux. Have any of you ever USED Windows lately? Holy fuck. (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Strange. I install windows 11 at least 3 times a week at work, it takes about 5 mins and is useable out the box.

Perhaps you could try RevoOS

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you call popups, annoying apps "usable" then it is.

I at least spend a day to make it less annoying.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pop ups? Huh? Sounds like you need an ad blocker for your browser then.

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pop ups?

That is not the case. Default builds of Windows 10 & 11 can send annoying notifications like "Scanned your computer blah blah...". And I assume there are lot more. I mean if it isn't popup, then what it is? I mostly disable notifications completely by the way. Probably there are more than that, idk.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ah windows notifications. Ya most OS have that even Linux. With that said it takes about 2 seconds to completely disable them and you never have to deal with it again.

Calling windows unusable because of a tiny window appearing on the bottom right corner is just being dramatic.

It’s hard for people to accept your point when you’re being over the top dramatic about a feature that is easily disabled.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's like that guy that was upset his computer wanted a wifi connection and that it was "giving sensitive info to Microsoft!"

Bro just stop using the internet if you're that scared.

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling windows unusable because of a tiny window appearing on the bottom right corner is just being dramatic.

Do you really think just because of that? You guys are dramatizing a lot than me. I just say that is annoying, defaults are not fine. Tweaking it consumes my time a lot. Don't miss the whole point. It's just a tiny tiny little bit example of how awful and annoying defaults are.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you call popups, annoying apps "usable" then it is.

The only one being dramatic is you.

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

How it is dramatic? You are the one who took offense... It's not hard to just understand defaults are bad.

[–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

look into an LTSC build or Tiny10
instead of removing things, you'll be adding them

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tiny10 was infected IIRC, LTSC is not for me since it requires more tinkering than default Windows.

[–] ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't found any info about Tiny10 being compromised
LTSC will depend on your usage
if you rely on lots of Microsoft services then you'd be better with stock Windows

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree! Microsoft services fits nice with stock. But still doesn't change stock is bad. But most of my friends and relatives (who use Windows) doesn't use Microsoft products (except core products like calculator) because they do not need it. The stock just comes with so many bloat, bad taskbar, telemetries etc... Some of them don't know how to debloat and tinker with system so they can't mess with it and leave it at stock, some of them knows and does every single step to go far away from stock.

Tiny10 compromise was a hearsay then. Thanks for your info.

I didn't understand what you mean by LTSC will depend on your usage. Can you explain it more?

[–] 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wholeheartedly unpleasant but "usable"

[–] pfc@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it is so unpleasant... But I am another type of perfectionist so unless I properly configured and got rid of all the trash, I can't use it.

Didn't thought like "unpleasant" so yeah unpleasant would be more fitting then unusable. Agree with you. 👍