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[–] dwemthy@lemdro.id 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, so you don't believe in representational democracy. I'm not surprised that if you can't be bothered to vote then you can't be bothered to influence who you get to vote for.

What's a realistic way to build these alternative structures? How do these alternative structures work such that your local needs are met and the genocide in Palestine gets stopped?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, so you don't believe in representational democracy.

Nope. Relying on political operatives to faithfully represent our interests is how we got into this mess in the first place.

I'm not surprised that if you can't be bothered to vote then you can't be bothered to influence who you get to vote for.

I already voted. I'm just not pretending that we get to have any influence over who we get to vote for.

What's a realistic way to build these alternative structures?

Follow a historical example like the Black Panthers. If your community has an unmet need, serve it and use it as an opportunity to organize your neighbors.

How do these alternative structures work such that your local needs are met and the genocide in Palestine gets stopped?

Nothing threatens the structure of power more than the existence of organized groups of people who don't depend on it.

[–] dwemthy@lemdro.id 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please explain to me slowly because I have never read a political science book of any kind: how does threatening power structures through personal independence stop the Palestinian genocide?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

Even without directly opposing the State, the mere existence of alternative power structures poses an existential threat to it.

For just one small example, having fewer desperate people means there will be fewer volunteers for military service, making recruitment more expensive and sapping the budget available for foreign military aid.

Fewer military volunteers also means fewer people indoctrinated into the military mindset, further reducing support for military adventurism.

For another, organized people who work together to solve common problems are also more likely to recognize the shared humanity of those whom the State has declared to be enemies. It's hard to sell a genocide to the voters when they understand that they have much more in common with the victims than their own political leaders.