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A Wind Power Crisis Is Holding Back the World’s Green Energy Goal (www.bloomberg.com)
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While wind is more expensive than solar, and has issues highlighted in article, the higher capacity factors, and production outside of midday, means less battery capacity is needed to serve renewables, and batteries get charged more often.

A key to bringing down transmission costs for wind, especially offshore where transmission is the highest cost component, is hydrogen production. Picking up H2, or refueling, by trucks and ships can provide cheaper energy than transmission lines. Pipelines are even cheaper with enough volume, and double as storage.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Spoolable FRP pipes up to 4" in diameter can fit on a truck. Rated for 200bar. Pre covid, this was quoted as $50k/km as full deployment cost with 10s of km per day buildout rate. Spoolable pipe that can fit on ships has no diameter limit.

I don't know details of manufacturing process, but spools, plastic pipe extrusion, and fiber reinforcement should be highly automatable.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not every random frp is suitable, hydrogen will fit trough most plastics and fibres. So... the cheapest crap won't Just do the trick

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

PE pipes used for NG seem "good enough" https://www.pe100plus.com/PPCA/HYDROGEN-TRANSPORT-IN-POLYMER-PIPES-FOR-NATURAL-GAS-DISTRIBUTION-TEN-YEARS-OF-EXPERIENCE-p1737.html

PTFE is known to be better. Fiber reinforcement is mostly an outside layer to increase pressure resistance. Putting PE or PTFE inside existing steel pipes would also work.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

PTFE and chemicals used in its production are some of the best-known and widely applied PFAS, which are persistent organic pollutants. PTFE occupies more than half of all fluoropolymer production, followed by polyvinylidene fluoride (PVdF).

-- Polytetrafluoroethylene on Wikipedia

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

You should read what you linked. It says:

  • the hydrogen leaks more than natural gas
  • this type of plastic degrades even when not in use
  • they have not looked into the issue of hydrogen diffusing out trough the plastic

I wouldn't say a pipe underground that you have to dig up every year to check if it's not falling apart on it's own is a great option