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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I feel that many Russians are against Putler's regime, but are (rightfully so) too afraid to speak up.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)
[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How is what he said wrong? 25% is "many Russians".

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

Ahh yes, polling in a country where saying the wrong thing gets you locked up. Very useful /s

[–] essell@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

How would that number change if all those people had access to independent reporting?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's an old joke about agents from the CIA and KGB sharing a drink at a pub in Berlin.

"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.

"Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."

The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

[–] diablexical@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Joke is going over my head can you explain?

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

CIA agent 'drinks the kool-aid'

Cold-war era joke, pre-suppose all us media is 'State' media

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That is a truly excellent joke. I will remember that

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

The Trumpublicans in the U.S. have access to independent reporting, yet they choose instead to limit themselves to lies that make them feel like they're better than everyone else.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe it would change but Russian culture is still Russian culture.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Seriously, you can't unshit a pool.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't have access to it, but allegedly on VK which is the Russian knockoff of Facebook, they also have similar numbers of a majority in favor of destroying Ukraine.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean given that you get arrested for a showing a blank piece of paper and sent to prison/gulag... Do you really think that de-annonymised people would put their opinions forward?

But also in the west where we don't have quite such a police state, we still do have many people who vote against their interests until their own interests are being affected...

Moral of the story... Humans suck

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Humans suck

Conservatives suck. The normal people are actually pretty cool.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In favor of what? They aren't being told the truth about anything. They're in favor of an imaginary war for imaginary reasons.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That may be true. But I tend to believe factual journalism over a random internet person's conjecture that you seem to be sure of for some reason.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago

It’s not that they’re for or against. They don’t care.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I feel that many Russians are against Putler’s regime

Well thats not what any polls anywhere say. Where did you get that from? Reminds me of this saying: "Wish into one hand and shit into the other and see which one gets full first."

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 week ago

Nah, propaganda is a hell of a drug