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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I've been saying this for a while, but I believe it will be a large margin win for Harris and the democrats. I don't believe a large portion of Republicans will actually go to the polls this year. They won't bring themselves to go show up to the polls. The dems can push this hard and I believe more seats than the dnc are expecting will end up flipping to them.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. I honestly don't know.

Firstly, fucking vote. Don't get complacent no matter what. Make a plan of how to get to your booth on the big day. A lot of media between now and then will try to make you feel like you don't need to bother.

That said, having consumed a lot of commentary about this, from organisations I think are reasonably balanced, I just have no idea what to expect.

After the big day, it could be an outright shooting civil war, or Kamala could win in a landslide because republicans are too ashamed to vote, or Trump could claim victory and just get away with it. In any of those starkly different outcomes I'd think "well this was a really predictable outcome"

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It all comes down to swing states. If it were popular vote then Harris would win in a landslide.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, that will decide whether Harris wins from a legitimate perspective, but Trump just isn't going to concede no matter what happens.

They've been wargaming how to foment uncertainty, and if they can find a way to do so in a state which is not a swing state they will do so.

It's very clear that if Trump does not win legitimately, he's going to try to steal victory illigitimately, through manipulation of corrupt officials, through legal proceedings in friendly courts, and through civil unrest if need be. It's exactly what he did in 2020, but with no preparation. This time round they've had 4 years to prep.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think its more the GOP and its posse of billionaires have been running the election theft playbook for four years. Trump never has plans, the people who are running things for him do..

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

I hope you're right. Let's make it so!

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know, I saw a lot of Trump supporters when I voted today.

I hope you're right and we can get a big blue victory, but Republicans have always been consistent voters.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

She needs to win the swing states, not just win the popular vote. And that's seems like a coin toss.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's where I disagree. It will be a clear victory. I was worried he'd win 2016. I was worried he'd win 2020. I'm confident he'll lose 2024.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, you got some numbers for next weeks lottery please?

I mean maybe he'll lose, but who thought he'd win 2016? So maybe not!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

I though he could win 2016. When going for the first female president, you don't want to put forward someone that so much of the country dislikes as a person. The only reason we have a trump anything is because the DNC rammed Hillary down our throats.