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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Makes me wonder if absolutely shitty jobs like janitorial work or garbage collection or working in sewers would go from being minimumally paid to being super high paying jobs if there was UBI, because it would become the only way to actually attract (a majority) people to the work. Or if it would just force robotics to get better specifically for these kinds of jobs humans don't want to do.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both, ideally. Though UBI is still just a bandaid on the gushing wound that is capitalism; without radically correcting the housing market landleeches will just raise rents by the exact amount of UBI and we'll be in the exact same situation.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An actually good UBI system would also include shit in the verbiage of the law to prevent that.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah when mass unemployment hit with the pandemic, we were shown exactly how insufficient most if not all states' unemployment benefits were for actually living on. I think having some kind of voucher system where this is one week's groceries, one month's rent, etc., would work, but of course they're going to find a way to game whatever we come up with. Saying "but they'll find loopholes" isn't a reason not to do the first step. That's letting perfection get in the way of progress, and it's pretty much the entire corpo pol playbook.