It's a very long post, but a lot of it is a detailed discussion of terminology in the appendix -- no need to read that unless you're into definitional struggles.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're going to federate with ActivityPub?

[–] thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bridgy Fed and Friendica already connect Bluesky to the ActivityPub Fediverse.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To bridge your fediverse account into Bluesky and interact with people there, search for and follow @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy. That account will then follow you back. Accept its follow to make sure your fediverse posts get sent the bridge and make it into Bluesky.

https://fed.brid.gy/docs#fediverse-get-started

I mean, I guess, but that's pretty convoluted and opt-in, not so much a direct compatible connection from Bluesky to the Fediverse. And you'd have to trust them regarding privacy.

[–] thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed that Bridgy Fed is opt-in ... I see consent as a good thing, but not everybody agrees.

And yeah, Bluesky's just ike any other instance, you have to trust them with privacy. I think the argument that Bluesky, Flipboard, Threads, and Wordress.com-hosted blogs shouldn't be considered part of the Fediverse is intellectually consistent, I just don't see a lot of people making that argument. But, "the Fedivese" means different things to different people, the followup post Is Bluesky part of today's Fediverse? goes into a huge amount of detail on that ...

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was referring to Bridgy, not Bluesky, regarding privacy. It acts like a middleman between whatever you're using and Bluesky. And it isn't really opt-in in that sense, because the majority of users would not even be aware of this even existing. An opt-in feature would be directly implemented into a platform, like a toggle you could switch within your account settings. Whether that is opt-in or opt-out is personal preference I guess, but with that logic it should be ideally the same for all native instances as well.

[–] thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ah okay, I agree that you need to trust Bridgy Fed from a privacy and security perpective. Also agreed that most people don't know Bridgy Fed exists, and that's a problem. And yes, it would be better for the platforms to have more support for opt-in federation, but alas Mastodon's documentation describes allow-list federation as opposed to their mission ... I asked Renaud a while ago whether that was likely to change and he said no. So, yeah, it's certainly far from a perfect solution.