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I have about 7k in precious metals, and 2k in fire arms (and ammo) I do not have main character syndrome so I recognize my life as a trans woman is in extreme danger. How do I GTFO of the US? I'm having the most intense panic attack I've ever had and just want advice to escape extreme facism

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[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If it's just you (and your dog as you mentioned in a different comment) I don't think it should be too difficult. I don't kow what languages you know, but even if it is only English you can still kind of coast by on the unipolar moment. Plenty of countries will still not really require Americans to apply for citizenship so much as just announce that they live there now. Unfortunately many of those are the Euro ones and where America goes, we go soon after, so it's probably not a great idea to go where you will have the exact same problem again in five to ten years. Still, if you are serious about moving there should be plenty of countries in the world that will pretty much rubber stamp you for approval so long as you get out before you are actually legally stripped of all your rights, which still gives you some time.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Plenty of countries will still not really require Americans to apply for citizenship so much as just announce that they live there now

What? More info please lol

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Slight exaggeration for comedic effect, but because the US is such a rich country if their citizens announce that they would rather live and pay tax in your country, the process tends to be a lot easier. Not every American is rich of course, but as a rule they're not gonna dive that deep into you as an individual person. I am, as I said, Eurotrash and can mostly speak for my own country, but I have never met or even heard of an American who was denied to stay for however long they wanted to. If an American applies for citizenship the quthorities pretty much just go "Well, that's probably a net gain for us." and approve it. And that's not exclusive to the Euro countries, though as has been mentioned it might be difficult in countries like China where they would probably actually check.

[–] Saoirse@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It should be kept in mind that nobody has to do a lot of deep checking to find out you're trans and decide they don't like you because of that. A lot of times they can just look at your face and see it, and if not, your ID may not match what they see. And then you have to try to find a job there, because even if you're moving somewhere that your dollars have relatively strong buying power, you aren't going to live on that for more than a year at best. Hard enough to get a job as a trans person as a born citizen who speaks the language, I wouldn't like my chances trying to get one as a foreigner speaking a second language.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

True, but I assume that a trans person looking to move will check the specifics of that country far more carefully than I have done. Please do not move to another country based on my internet comments. And in the countries that would be considered by a trans person an American citizenship would still make things much easier.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am, as I said, Eurotrash and can mostly speak for my own country, but I have never met or even heard of an American who was denied to stay for however long they wanted to.

what about canadians? and do you mind saying which country?

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I live in Sweden, and while I don't have a huge number of Americans to choose from for my examples, the ones I do have range from staying because their girlfriend lived here (relationship ended within months, but just decided to stay anyway), to having an uncle who is not even a citizen himself who lives in a different part of the country. It is not that difficult. Canadians can't quite ride the American supremacy in the same way, but anyone from white people land would frankly have a fairly easy time. Any trans person who has to go to Europe I would recommend Denmark. They have made it a part of their national character to be fine with all LGBTQ people in order to be able to focus more on their islamophobia.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All right. Sounds cool but I'm still skeptical. I might want to ask you some more questions sometime (even though I probably won't try this). Are you really sure I could outstay my visitor Visa or w/e it is (can't remember if it's 90 days or like 6 months) without like proof that I have a really good career to support myself or something? I suppose I'd have to do some kind of work since I don't have a ton of savings, and the entry level jobs probably wouldn't want to hire someone who doesn't even speak Swedish, lol

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

You'll still have to apply to extend your visa, it's just much easier for Americans to get that extension. Having a job would of course help, but if you're not receiving unemployment benefits (That would be tough even for an American) they may just assume that you do some kind of freelance/investment.

[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Plenty of countries will still not really require Americans to apply for citizenship so much as just announce that they live there now.

what, is that really true? everything I have read (as a Canadian) makes it sound like a very strict process. But I don't even have the funds to survive for several years in another country anyways, much less the desire to try to get hired at some minimum wage job in another country (if they'd even hire an immigrant lol)