I posted this in urbanism because I think it can be an offset for a nice discussion about living together in apartment blocks and the cramped conditions that arise, especially in sub-par block. Part of urbanism is urban living and discussions about how to tackle issues such as these.

Of course none of this would be an issue with good infrastructure, but that's something that can always be said. If everything was lollypops and gumdrops and so on.

I like the thread because both people start off reasonable and courteous and then end up calling each other names. I dislike it because, it being reddit, it just becomes a dogpile instead.

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[–] Barx@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No money to put in a hook ($5) or bike rack ($50) but owns two bikes.

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Also no space in his personal area for two bikes, but owns two bikes. Seriously why does this guy have a second redundant bike if space is so tight?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Especially compared to cars bicycles are more often stolen, fucked up, vandalized or just suffer something like a popped inner tube due to road debris. If you actually depend on your bike for transportation, it's not a bad idea to have a fallback

[–] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Okay that's a good point I hadn't considered

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

it's not a bad idea to have a fallback

Or 6

[–] Mesophar@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

More of a reason to invest (even limited funds) into a storage solution that keeps the bikes out of the way of being accidentally (or intentionally) damaged.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not defending this guys approach, I'm too much of the opinion that if you think you can blockade fire exits you do not understand their purpose or basic levels of abstraction.

That said, you can have the greatest, safest, armed security guard patrolled bike storage at your place, unless literally everywhere you go also has that, you still want a fallback bike

[–] Mesophar@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, definitely not against having a second, fall-back bike! But if you're concerned about one of them being damaged, maybe address that first. Especially when someone has offered to pay for part/all of it for you. Doesn't work with the space they have in their apartment? Then rearrange what you can to fit it (at least one).

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'm generously imagining scenarios where they already had these bikes and they have sentimental value. But still, I'm sure it is entirely practicable to put them in their apartment with little to no expense and they're just an asshole.

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

i think the second bike is actually OOP's roommates bike, which got moved into their apartment prior to the end of the text exchange.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I didn't realise that until you pointed it out actually. On the other hand, sometimes you fall on hard times.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

$5 is a small enough amount of money that if it's all you need you can get it basically whenever you want if you try even a little. They could even just ask OP for it.

For example, they have two bikes. They could use one of those bikes one time to do a food delivery. They are basically saying that making everyone else deal with this hassle and a fire hazard for years isn't worth 30 minutes of riding the bikes they presumably ride all the time for work and/or exercise.