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Great point. In the United States, there are between 17,000 and 32,000 rape-related pregnancies every year.
I'll also point out that, in most states, rapists get parental rights to their children, which ties the victim to her abuser for almost 19 years. Yes, yes, technically the victim can sever the parental-rights requirement but - like so many of these laws that put the "rights" of others over a woman's - it isn't easy:
One state doesn't allow severance at all; 25 others only allow it if the father is actually convicted of the rape, which only happens in 28 out of every 1,000 cases. Actually, out of those 25 states, a number of them only allow severance if the rapist is actually convicted of certain sexual offenses or degrees of assault that led to the conception of the particular child - so if the jury decides to convict of first-degree sexual assault and not rape, the rapist may still get to argue for custody or visitation.
Of the other 24 states, 18 require “clear and convincing evidence” that shows the rape led to the child in question; the other 6 require either clear and convincing evidence or a criminal conviction.
Fuck the Republicans and everyone else who's set up this entire "women are just brood mares" situation.
I was 100% pro-choice but somehow this made me more pro-choice. Wtf...
I’m at like 310% now and counting
Abortion is a horrible medical procedure when you think about it. But guess what:
we are horrible people that make it necessary.
so is amputation, but its much better than the alternative.
Abortion could be a horrible medical procedure in rare cases, but in the vast majority It's not. Nobody is aborting viable fetuses that are able to live on their own, except in very extreme cases where both the mother is going to die, and the child can't be saved by out of womb care. In those cases, it is horrible, but necessary, and no one is willingly going through that. The vast majority of abortions involve a pill and a clump of cells.
Abortions save lives. Many cases of abortion involve women who would die without one. Nature is the only 'horrible' thing that makes it necessary.
Abortions also keep unwanted children from being born, which many would argue is a worse fate than being aborted. This one can be blamed mostly on the horrible state of the world, and the carelessness of people (I wouldn't ever refer to anyone as horrible for simply going through with an abortion, and actually see it as a selfless and empathetic act in most cases). Again, these kind of voluntary abortions are never being performed anywhere near or after the point in time that the fetus could be considered a living being, though.
Also in many cases it's not a medical procedure at all - the morning after pill is a thing, for example
To be fair who would really consider the morning after pill an abortion?
Yeah... them... fair point.....
Some pro lifers, especially the religious kind, would count the morning after pill as an abortion. Catholics come to mind first.
The morning after pill doesn't cause abortion, it prevents the egg from being implanted in the uterus.