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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you think Zionism is if not the appropriation of Judaism (a religion) in order to settler-colonize the middle east?

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you agree with me? Unchanging underlying issues and the usage of varying ideological tools, Zionism as it was coined in the 19th century being the newest form, constitute the core of the Middle-East conflict and have so for millennia?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I don't. Settler-Colonialism originated in Europe, not Palestine.

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh please, the Middle East is the cradle of civilisation and settlements of the land of other tribes, nations, whatever you call it, have always been with us.Just because Europeans first had the tools to do it en Masse doesn’t mean it’s new or a European idea. Just look at China in Tibet, Arab in Egypt, Turks in Byzantine and so on.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sigh this conversation bores me (the "cradle of civilization" bullshit did it for me).

If you can't see the direct connection from european proto-capitalism resulting into colonialism which inspired the Zionists, then go on and believe in mytholocical notions of "5000 year old conflicts".

BTW: "Cradle of civilization" and then acknowledging that China existed? Come on! 🙄

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You should seriously get some education. For starters on the region I’d recommend Montefiore, but judging from your highly prejudiced notions, your to politically set in your ways to even consider outside information.

You’d do well to accept that although European history isn’t benevolent, it’s not the single source of evil in the world. Most behaviours are just part of human nature.

Saying colonialism is a European phenomenon and can’t have come from any other place is the same as saying black people cant be racist. Both statements are just plain wrong.

BTW: Just because two regions developed something at the same time doesn’t prohibit a commonly used expression for one, doesn’t it?

Und nachdem du anscheinend auch deutsch sprichst: Deinem Kommentr erlauf scheinst du diese Argumentationslinie aus Solidarität mit Palästina und einer generellen Kritik am westlichen Gesellschaftsmodell heraus zu verfolgen. Dass es Nuancen in allem gibt sollte dir trotzdem klar sein. Natürlich ist es scheiße was Israel abzieht. Es ist aber genauso wenig besonders, wie der Nationalsozialismus eine einmalige Kulmination des Bösen war.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You should seriously get some education.

You just can't help it with your smug tone, can you?

[–] Darukhnarn@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago