And as someone who lives in California right by where the "high speed rail" that's been promised for decades will be built, I'll again point out that until other things progress, you cant remove cars, and acting any differently, like that sub often does, shows their niavette.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

it sounds like you're still missing the point of both communities: the fuckcars crowd want improved non-car options; the cars crowd want complain about people using alternatives that inconvenience them when they drive.

no one's advocating abolishing cars. there's plenty who are pissed off at entitled drivers and rightfully so; but only the clueless want abolishment and that's contrary to the point.

[–] DempstersBox@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

Sure! So how do things progress towards more walkable cities, with useable public transit?

Oh yeah. People gotta get pissed enough to actually have the motivation to effect real change.

So drive your disposable $40,000 gutless wonder to and from everything, I'll continue to give you the finger every time you forget people who ride bikes exist.

And take my cabriolet on the occasional pleasure cruise, because it's actually worth driving.

Because yeah, cars can be cool. But not on the fucking daily, that's exhausting. Zing!