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‘I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics,’ Republican candidate tells Fox’s Maria Bartiromo

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"And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military," he said.

"I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. Not even the people who have come in, who are destroying our country."

It isn't clear under what circumstances Trump would view it justifiable to call in US troops against his own countrymen.

But his comments mark a baseless attack and a particularly hollow one coming from someone whose supporters violently attacked the US Capitol in an attempt to stop him from being thrown out of office three years ago.


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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

An AK is a better fit, lol.

But (just going with this for a second) I dont see a scenario where even having like an M240 is going to make much of a difference going up against the US military. What do you picture happening, a good honest firefight? At that point homemade bombs and such are your only resort where a pistol wouldn't work.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam have left the chat. Why is this talking point always used to counter gun rights? It’s objectively not true ans has been proven time and time again. It’s guerilla / asymmetrical warfare, thr gov has to come to you.

The AKs available to the US consumer are also not weapons of war, they are strictly semi automatic.

An M240 would be a major upgrade in such a scenario. It would be more effective than a pistol, ideally you would have people with M240s and people making IEDs.

[–] stoned_ape@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. Gravy Team 6 has spent generations fighting an asymmetrical war against Russia then the US and I'm sure they train every day at Taliban compounds or are remnants of the Republican Guard

Be real: they sit in their garage drinking shitty beer and jerking off their unsatisfying-to-anyone cocks to guns, trucks, and Trump

I mean, they did a great job Jan 6, when Babbitt did not comply, of fighting back and showing big ol tyrannical gov! /s

Jk, they ran like little girls as soon as the reality set in

Lemme see any of these fucks hump full battle rattle 15 miles before we talk about them staging an insurgent war against the US

Christ, I bet all but a handful can't do a single pull-up

Yes, there are people in that culture that are capable of small-arms engagement, using fire and maneuver to close with engage and destroy the enemy, but the VAST majority of them are fatbody chodes who fantasize about living in right-wing Divergence or some other young adult fantasy novel series

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

In a most likely scenario, this ends up being a quick decapitation strike at those attempting to hold the Republic together, or ends up being a low engagement years long drawn out war. The military would be reluctant on both sides, leading to mostly an arms race of local and state police battling disgruntled / rioting citizens with some groups of more organized cells. The Troubles and not GWOT.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

a semi-auto AK and an AR are functionally identical for most practical purposes.

As for the scenario proposed: any direct long engangement would be suicide, but other tactics would be viable. The most likely scenario in the US would look something like The Troubles in Ireland.

But it's possible a significant portion the military could defect, which could make things look a little more like the Spanish Civil War.

Also, I would point to the existence of Rojava, which for years has been able to hold out against Turkey despite Turkey having access to significantly more sophisticated hardware.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The US military failed to fight insurgents in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. What makes you think they'd be any better against an insurgency in the US, especially when it'd involve a good portion of people in their own ranks?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You guys are living a fantasy if you think a large chunk of the US population will turn into the Taliban, Viet Cong, Mujahideen or whatever over which party is in the govt and whatever antics you think Trump or Harris get up to.

We live in a rich, militarized surveillance state. A rifle is not how you fight that.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

For now. But if you can't imagine any scenario where an M240 would be useful, you're very shortsighted. If (and this is a big if) we devolve into civil war, then an armed insurgency is very much on the table. All the tech stuff relies on infrastructure, and stable infrastructure is one of the first things to go.