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We'll have a long memory as things get worse for working class Americans, minorities and women
(lemmy.world)
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
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Your theory has been proven wrong every single time it's ever been put to the test.
So has yours! Noones been able to change the two party system so far!
Yes, they have. They've moved both parties to the right on economic issues because a lot of the country either chooses not to vote or votes this party (which is like choosing not to vote, but with more ways resources), giving the GOP victories it shouldn't have and teaching the Dems they aren't conservative enough.
The democrats move right because they want to win those voters. I wonder what might make them move left...
Clearly not voting third party because it's never fucking worked.
If you really want to change the Dems, vote Dem in the primaries and get involved in the party at the local level. It's shockingly easy to make real change at the local level where 50 people show up for an election.
Example of when it was tested?
Yeah. Every election in the US. Everybody can vote for whoever they want. And when people vote for someone that isn't one of the majority parties we get George W Bush instead of Al Gore.
If just 1% of Nader's Florida voters had voted for Gore instead imagine how much better our would would be.
Gore won that election
Gore couldn't prove it before time ran out because Florida had to certify it's results and didn't have time for a statewide recount. That's the most important part of the Bush v Gore cases.
There's a set election date (Tuesday following the second Wednesday in December - December 17th for 2024, but December 19 in 2000) when the ballots are cast. However, 1 will prior to that date is when the states must have the votes certified and transmitted to Congress with all legal challwnges settled. It's the Safe Harbor Date and has been law since 1887. It was not invented by Conservative justices in 2000.
So for Gore to win, the state totals following the limited recount would have had to favor him. They did not. He lost in Florida by 537 votes after the recount. Nader received 97,431 votes in Florida.
If just 1% of the Florida Nader viewers had voted for Gore, Bush would not have been President even with the Supreme Court stopping the recount.