Ask Lemmy
A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions
Please don't post about US Politics.
Rules: (interactive)
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com.
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Partnered Communities:
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
view the rest of the comments
On-prem still has its uses
Platter harddrives are still useful
Tapes and tapedrives aren't obsolete
Oh god my story. Okay so I was building out a video transcoding service for a company. We all know video transcoding is hella expensive. So I'm using kubernetes to help manage scale, and we're on the cloud. I warn them hey, cloud is hella expensive, this is going to be... a lot. Well what do you recommend? Glad you asked, and I pitched that we have 3 heavy server nodes sitting either in a rack if we want it official, or even we were small enough we could just have them in the office. They would be VPN'd into the cluster, members of the cluster, and those get the priority. If a transcode job comes in use those nodes, only spin up cloud nodes if the scale is too high. I quoted about 20k for 3 beefy performant machines for the node.
Executives balked at the price. Way too much money, what a ridiculous idea anyway, we're a cloud company.
Two months into the cloud only solution they were averaging 12 grand just on CPU compute! Why is it so high?! That's ridiculous!
Absolute fuckers, the morons. I swear I've seen so many companies hemorrhage money because they refuse to listen to legit experts in the field. You fuckers, I was trying to save you money, but no your MBA and accounting degrees taught you how to run fucking cloud operations.
I hate that it's so hard to get these people to agree to capex. My current company runs a few datacenters, and we have some teams that use them for their base load. It saves a shitload of money! Like, I don't get why this is a concept that MBAs reject. You don't have to go all in on capex for your infrastructure, just find a nice mix of capex/opex. If you're afraid that you won't use the shit you bought later on, then you should probably make sure that the market is there for whatever you're selling before you dive in headfirst.
Because data center costs are OPex and on prem server costs are CAPex, and companies very much prefer things to be in the OPex (operating expense) column.
We spent several hundreds of thousands of dollars last year doing geophysical processing in azure. But it was an emergency: It was a hot fix to avoid losing out on hundred times that amount. Turned out the contract negotiator never bothered telling operations that they agreed to deliver the data with some processing already applied.
We considered building a processing cluster on site, but buying the necessary hardware and shipping it halfway around the world in a timely manner would've been even more costly. Plus I would be the one who had to build the rig, and I was all tied up on a different project a few countries over at that time.
Should have told them it was an on prem cloud lol.
If you're not archiving old data on tapes and shipping them off to a converted bomb shelter, you're not doing it right.
That is literally what we do at my job.
Three copies: One for the client who paid for it, one for us (internal processing and testing only), and one as a backup goes to a storage location that is a converted cold war era bomb shelter.
But the drive is pricey :)
Also, do you really need high performance SSDs? Are you actually writing the drive volume a day?
On prem is, in almost all cases, cheaper than cloud. Even when you include the salaries of the folks managing it.
But MBAs will pay a LOT for outages to be someone else's problem.