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Tim Walz calls for scrapping of electoral college to decide US presidential race (www.theguardian.com)

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Kamala Harris’s running mate urges popular vote system but campaign says issue is not part of Democrats’ agenda

Tim Walz, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, has called for the electoral college system of electing US presidents to be abolished and replaced with a popular vote principle, as operates in most democracies.

His comments – to an audience of party fundraisers – chime with the sentiments of a majority of American voters but risk destabilising the campaign of Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential candidate, who has not adopted a position on the matter, despite having previously voiced similar views.

"I think all of us know, the electoral college needs to go," Walz told donors at a gathering at the home of the California governor, Gavin Newsom. "We need a national popular vote. We need to be able to go into York, Pennsylvania, and win. We need to be in western Wisconsin and win. We need to be in Reno, Nevada, and win."

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, a couple things here are way off. The electoral college is not a cause of the two party system. FPTP is the primary driver of that.

No, both parties don't want the electoral college. Pretty sure the Dems would love to win nearly all modern presidential races. This is a pretty lame "they're both the same".

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Please don't vote-splain. You're arguing semantics. The electoral college just gives states the ability to decide to honor or ignore the will of the people. It also gives rural states more per-capita power than they'd othereise get. Until relatively recently, most states had nothing on the books to force delegates to vote the way the people wanted.

Sure, some of the younger crowd may want to abolish the electoral college, it won't happen unless states force an amendment. The fossils in Congress, as well as the enshrined political surnames, will all use their collective power and wealth to shut that shit down for as long as they can.

In terms of they're both the same, you are naive if you think the Democrats really care about you or power. They just don't outrightly tell the populous to fuck off like the Republicans do. The party tolerates progressives, but does everything they can to keep them out of power. Look to Adam Schiff these last couple of years for a good example. If I recall, didn't he politically champion and/or donate to a candidate running against a progressive Democrat in his state? When the Democrats, or even the Republicans for that matter, have all three branches, they still never seem to get anything done.

Hmm, 🤔... It's almost like they want the current status quo to persist, even when empowered to do something without barriers.