Do you think Lemmy and other parts of the fediverse will eventually enshittify? I think this would be an interesting discussion to have. There currently is not financial incentive like the ones that have led centralized platforms to enshittify. But there might be in the future. Does decentralization protect against that tendency in some way?

Lemmy and Mastodon do give me the hope, that when one platform turns to shit, there will be people creating a platform that - for the time being - is not.

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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 50 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Federated platforms don't die to corporate-type enshittification. They die to spam or elitism.

If operators fail to collaborate on keeping spam down, the platform becomes unusable or greatly-diminished due to spam. See Usenet for example — yes, it's still around, but it's greatly diminished from the 1990s. New projects and organizations don't tell participants to subscribe to a Usenet newsgroup for discussion. (Curiously, email mailing-lists have outlived Usenet in this way, at least for technical projects. While email is federated, any given mailing-list is centralized.)

If the technology isn't developed with an eye to new users' needs and new use cases, because it's "good enough" for the existing established users, the platform becomes dated and gets replaced by something trendy and corporate. This is IRC vs. Discord and Slack. IRC has a higher barrier to entry and infamously doesn't work well on mobile — but it's good enough for the old farts who care about it, while the young farts move to Discord instead.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I like how old farts are just old farts because they're old. Young people are still farts too. They're just young farts, and will eventually be old farts. And the old farts of today, will eventually be dead farts.

We're all just farts. All in a fart vacume.

Just farting our way through life.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Gotta admit, I originally wrote "old farts" and "young shits", and decided that was too rude.