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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not really centerists, they're just trying to stir the pot. Jon Stewart had a really good podcast on all this on the Weekly Show. I could only find a youtube video on my laptop, I think it's the full thing by the time.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The uncommitted/third party vote is what caused biden to drop out of the race. It could also very well cost the democrats the election.

When a minority group has outsized power due to circumstance, they should use it to affect the change they want.

The point isnt to make democrats lose its to put pressure on them to drop their worst positions, which happen to include genocide.

You can argue that you think it won't work, but its a prediction. Noone knows, which is why even among Muslims this debate has people on both sides.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

None of what you said is how anything works in US government. Biden has some crazy takes on the war in Gaza, but it's rooted in them being our allies and something else that I have no idea about.

3rd party in a 2 party system just takes away votes from another person. You have to calculate who that's gong to be and assess the risk to the people and government.

When a single party is in charge of the both the house and senate and there are no assholes that can be bought off, that's the only time things can be changed.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

something else that I have no idea about.

That something else is Zionism.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you really believe that? Biden is a church going Catholic. We don't know what's going on here, but I suspect it's more money related.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of US Zionists are some flavor of Christianity. It's very common.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you think Zionist means?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A political movement that advocates for the establishment and support of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Then it's confirmed that I don't agree with you that that's what is happening with the Biden administration. They're trying to keep our allies from being bombed originally and now they're tied up in a shit dumpster.